Double workouts

[Aqualoo]

I love to push myself farthur every time I get the chance, so I'm wondering if I can do my workout for one day, twice in the same day.

For example, around noon I go to the gym and work out my chest and back, then return let's say around.. 8pm and do the same workout. Is that too much? I'm more than up to the challenge if it isn't dangerous.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

No, don't do that. Unless you enjoy overtraining.

[Doobs]

You can train twice in a day but you have to be smart about it. There's some stuff at T-nation about it: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=725763

[SaVvY]

I love to push myself farthur every time I get the chance, so I'm wondering if I can do my workout for one day, twice in the same day.

For example, around noon I go to the gym and work out my chest and back, then return let's say around.. 8pm and do the same workout. Is that too much? I'm more than up to the challenge if it isn't dangerous.
ill often train twice a day, an for long periods of time

Training the same muscles however, not really a good idea, i try to completely rest up for as long as it takes before doing anything that involves those muscles, an certainly would not do another workout for them in the same day..but i train with lots of intensity, an really kill my body each time i train it, if you were training light and easy, then its not so bad

[Anthony]

What's the purpose of training the same thing a few hours later? If you wanted to do something different (ie, strength, conditioning, skill) then that would be cool. But I don't understand why you would want to hit the exact same workout twice in a day.

[Aqualoo]

Because it's twice the workout. I almost never leave the gym sore and when I do, I feel accomplished.

But anyways, I'll take the advice and not do it.

[powerrack]

Not a great idea. Your basically asking for no gains. It doesn't make sense.

[Unreal]

Because it's twice the workout. I almost never leave the gym sore and when I do, I feel accomplished.

But anyways, I'll take the advice and not do it.

Soreness is not an indicator of growth or progress. You get bigger while you rest, not while you work out.

[powerrack]

Uneal just told it like it is! That's the bottom line.

[DNL]

Actually no... if you want to do it then do it. Test it out and tell us your result after a month from now, two months from now. The best lesson is the one you learned on your own.

[laxguy1028]

Do not do that, you will not grow and you will lose strength.

[Coqui]

The only way I do that is cardio in the morning weight training later. I wouldn't even dream of two lifting sessions in the same day

[Coqui]

Because it's twice the workout. I almost never leave the gym sore and when I do, I feel accomplished.

But anyways, I'll take the advice and not do it.


If you'd like, pay me $20 plus expenses and I'll inject you with lactic acid after every workout.

[Aqualoo]

Well that would be the easy way of doing things..

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Don't work the SAME muscles twice in a day...

[deeder]

Don't work the SAME muscles twice in a day...

Why does everyone keep saying that? I was doing 8 workouts a week for a while... Saw great results! I could only keep it up for about a month and a half though before I started burning out and moved to a normal routine. I was doing the same muscle morning and evening..

What's the down side?

[Aqualoo]

Well, like sCaRz said, overtraining. You'll work your muscles too much without giving them enough recovery time.

[Coqui]

What's the down side?


I don't think it's necessarily a matter of a down side. I think it's more there's a better way to get gains.

[Songsangnim]

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I could only keep it up for about a month and a half though before I started burning out and moved to a normal routine.

What's the down side?


I quoted and edited to give you your answer. You can not train this way for very long. And there are more efficient ways to see gains, which do minimize the possibility of "burning out" or overtraining.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Why does everyone keep saying that?
What's the down side?Um...



Saw great results! I could only keep it up for about a month and a half though before I started burning out and moved to a normal routine.

[deeder]

That's not the point I was making...

I agree with everyone that this WILL lead to overtraining and you WILL burn out!

HOWEVER, I think it can be a very effective technique to make some quick gains! No you can't do it for very long but I saw great gains doing a high frequency program.

Now, let me ask again and see if I actually get a response to my question:

Why can't one workout the same muscle twice in a day. Besides overtraining in time, why does everyone insist working out the same muscle twice in one day is worse than working out two different muscles in two seperate workouts in a day.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

I agree with everyone that this WILL lead to overtraining and you WILL burn out!This is the point.



Why can't one workout the same muscle twice in a day.One more time?



I agree with everyone that this WILL lead to overtraining and you WILL burn out!



why does everyone insist working out the same muscle twice in one day is worse than working out two different muscles in two seperate workouts in a day.Who said it was worse? Working separate muscles is fine. If your day only allows you to separate your workouts like that, then I see no problem here. But working out the same muscles twice in one day is pointless...unless you have "help"...

[deeder]

This is the point.


One more time?





Who said it was worse? Working separate muscles is fine. If your day only allows you to separate your workouts like that, then I see no problem here. But working out the same muscles twice in one day is pointless...unless you have "help"...


OK!? So you repeat what you said. Now tell me WHY IT'S ANY DIFFERENT!?

Yes, high frequency training WILL lead to overtraining however it won't happen in a day or a week... It takes times and you WILL make gains from it!

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

You will make gains and then you will burn out. What's your point? You're saying the same thing over and over again. Stick with a routine that won't burn you out in such a short amount of time. It only took YOU six weeks before you were burned out.

[DNL]

surely you can work each muscle group twice a day, but that depends on the intensity of your training sessions. Like the wise ones said "go heavy or go home". You can do light in the morning (which i don't see the point to) and heavy in the evening or vice versa, but then i see the light session is a waste when you could spend that time feeding yourself or something.

[deeder]

You will make gains and then you will burn out. What's your point? You're saying the same thing over and over again. Stick with a routine that won't burn you out in such a short amount of time. It only took YOU six weeks before you were burned out.

Yes I am saying the same thing over and over... You're clearly not getting what I am saying...

Why do you say that working different muscles in the same day is okay? (In seperate workouts) vs. the same muscle...

[Songsangnim]

Yes I am saying the same thing over and over... You're clearly not getting what I am saying...

Why do you say that working different muscles in the same day is okay? (In seperate workouts) vs. the same muscle...




(a) Working different muscles is okay, as this will not necessarily lead to "burn out" Some people like to do full body workouts and have seen great results from them.

(b) Working the same muscle twice a day (assuming that you are working hard may result in gains, but sooner or later will also likely result in burn out causing you to take time off and thus regress. Now if you only did 2-3 sets a workout, you might not burn out...but what would be the point of doing so few sets?

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Why do you say that working different muscles in the same day is okay? (In seperate workouts) vs. the same muscle...Burn out? :windup:



(b) Working the same muscle twice a day (assuming that you are working hard may result in gains, but sooner or later will also likely result in burn out causing you to take time off and thus regress. Now if you only did 2-3 sets a workout, you might not burn out...but what would be the point of doing so few sets?:withstupi

[Stumprrp]

do you all really have to argue about different types of training?

STUFF WORKS DIFFERENTLY FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG.

end of story

[Natetaco]

do you all really have to argue about different types of training?

STUFF WORKS DIFFERENTLY FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE, THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG.

end of story

yes you are right thankyou.

I would say you can train twice a day if you do chest in the AM and back in the PM, nothing wrong with that

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

I would say you can train twice a day if you do chest in the AM and back in the PM, nothing wrong with thatThat wasn't the argument.

[deeder]

That wasn't the argument.

Actually it was... You never seemed to understand that... My question was why that was ok and not working the same muscle. :bang:

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Because working the same muscle twice a day can lead to burn out. I answered the question many times already. You experienced burn out and are asking me what the reason is. You never seemed to understand that.

I guess it all comes down to what your routine is composed of during this 2 times a day split.

[LivinItUp]

I love to push myself farthur every time I get the chance, so I'm wondering if I can do my workout for one day, twice in the same day.

For example, around noon I go to the gym and work out my chest and back, then return let's say around.. 8pm and do the same workout. Is that too much? I'm more than up to the challenge if it isn't dangerous.

As do I, man. I would do 3 full workouts per day If it would make me progress faster or gain more mass. I have that inner-desire to workout to my fullest potential everyday, and what I've done is after I do my real workout, I may go back to the gym and hit a few excercises I did not do earlier on purpose. Also jump roping is great since calves can recover from it pretty quick and I also do boxing/kickboxing which works the core arms, legs whatever you want depending on what moves you are doing.

The answer is obvious to a lot, but I also see that it does vary from person to person in a general aspect. My advice would be do not get scared/be too cautious of "burning yourself out," perhaps be a little smarter and well-informed on what it does and how to correct yourself if it does happen. Some can train much more than others, I've built my endurance pretty well so I can train harder than some others without getting tired/worn out. Everyone's limit is going to be different in the long run and in the short run(based on genetics,diet,sleep,daily routine,etc.)

It's already been said but yes the exact same workout twice a day (If we assume that you work with high intensity) will burn you up.

[deeder]

Because working the same muscle twice a day can lead to burn out. I answered the question many times already. You experienced burn out and are asking me what the reason is. You never seemed to understand that.

I guess it all comes down to what your routine is composed of during this 2 times a day split.

Holy ****. Nevermind. Does anyone else understand my question?

Why is it okay to work out twice if you do different muscles?! Wouldn't it still be excessive and eventually lead to overtraining?

[gains2385]

Holy ****. Nevermind. Does anyone else understand my question?

Why is it okay to work out twice if you do different muscles?! Wouldn't it still be excessive and eventually lead to overtraining?

I believe I do. You can work out twice a day if you can handle it. If you have the energy to workout twice a day, do it. Most people on this board prefer to workout once a day, so their one workout will expend all of their energy and not leave any energy for any more training for that day. If you have the energy to workout twice a day, there are two possibilities:

1. You have lots of energy naturally and are able to go longer, farther, and harder than most people so you are able to work out twice in one day or,

2. Your first workout is not as high of intensity as most people on this board, thus you still have energy left over for another workout.

Will working out twice led to overtraining? Not if the enrgy expended is equal to the amount of energy that you would of expended as if you worked out once. For all of this goes, you could work out four times a day as long as you did not over do it. Doing so, for almost anyone, would led to over training and being burned out in a hurry.

I can not believe that this has not been asked, but what does your split look like? When you say you want to do chest and back, what exactly is it that you do for chest and back? If I tried to combine the excercises that I do for chest and back into one day, for just one workout, I would be hosed. I do chest one day, back one day, legs one day, aux. one day, then HIIT the others. Tell us your split and then I believe that we will be able to tell rather or not you can do it twice in one day. If all you do is 3 sets of flat bench and flyes for chest and deadlifts/pullups for back, then yes, you could probably do that twice a day (depending on reps, weights, length of rests between sets [keep in mind that EVERYONE is different]). Post your routine for back and chest.
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[gains2385]

wait, deeder is not the OP. what exactly are you wanting to do twice in one day deeder?

[deeder]

wait, deeder is not the OP. what exactly are you wanting to do twice in one day deeder?

Not wanting to do anything twice in one day... Been there done that... Just wondering why people think two workouts with seperate muscles are OK but two workouts for the same aren't.. High Frequency training is high frequency training IMHO.

[TopCat]

Because, weight lifting tears your muscles down. The lesson of the day for those that do not know **Your muscles grow outside the gym** Working the same group twice a day is not only tearing your muscle down repeatedly, but gives very little time to grow (which I believe would be the goal!) On the same note, it does tax your body to repair (nutrients and rest), doing too much in one day without adequate rest of day(s) can be a problem. This is why most splits have rest days instead of training every day of the week and never train the same muscle twice a day. Someone can correct me if im wrong but even on gear you would not train twice in the same day I believe.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Just wondering why people think two workouts with seperate muscles are OK but two workouts for the same aren't.Because you are working out separate muscles and it wouldn't be as exhausting as doing the same muscles twice a day. And it wouldn't be as big of a chance for burn out, though both would be pretty tiresome after a while. Having to consume a pre and post work out meal/shake twice doesn't seem like fun to me.

[LouPac]

Actually no... if you want to do it then do it. Test it out and tell us your result after a month from now, two months from now. The best lesson is the one you learned on your own.
Smart people learn from their own mistakes, wise people learn from the mistakes of others.;)