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teenathlete3030
09-08-2006, 08:39 PM
I have found that for me the hardest rep of a heavy deadlift set (say on a set of 3) is the first rep, not necessarily the last. Getting the weight started seems like the hardest task. If you just tap the weight on the ground and immediately go up with the next rep, you get a rythem going. If you set the weight down and take a quick breath and go back up, it's like lifting the first rep again.

By the way I can't imagine that this is cheating since I'm pretty sure a heavy bar doesn't bounce much. Just a tip I found.

D Breyer
09-08-2006, 08:53 PM
Newton's third law? for every action is an equal and opposite reaction. You would be supprised how much a heavy bar bounces, just watch anybody deload a heavy clean.

Also, it should not about making the lift "easier", or looking for a short-cut.

HeavyBomber
09-08-2006, 08:56 PM
The first rep is the only true deadlift. The following reps with no pause are dynamic reps. You also do not take into account benefit of the stretch reflex.

Not that I find anything wrong with not pausing. Deads with no pause are great.

big ol' boy
09-08-2006, 10:05 PM
I agree that it makes it easier but it is called "dead"lift for a reason. You're supposed to simulate lifting dead weight off the ground.

The Zach
09-08-2006, 10:24 PM
You need to deweight the weight to floor each rep. Bouncing off the ground is bad form.

PhilsterT
09-08-2006, 11:51 PM
So you're suggesting a pause and reset between each rep? That would certainly take awhile.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
09-09-2006, 12:38 AM
If I didn't pause between reps, I'd black out and collapse on the floor. :thumbup:

bullethead74
09-09-2006, 12:51 AM
If you cant pause, even briefly with the weight at 'dead' stop on the floor then you are using too much weight, as you say the 1st rep is the hardest, because this is the only one being done properly.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
09-09-2006, 03:17 AM
If you cant pause, even briefly with the weight at 'dead' stop on the floor then you are using too much weightHow do you figure?

Nosaj
09-09-2006, 04:49 AM
Too many people think there is only one way to do an exercise. Don't state opinion as fact, makes you look narrowminded and ignorant.

bullethead74
09-09-2006, 06:55 AM
Or to put it another way, you dont want to lower the weight because it would hurt your ego.

If you dont stop at the bottom, then you are using momentum not muscle, the same as bouncig the bar off of your chest in bench press.

puny_ectomorph
09-09-2006, 07:25 AM
That and by the third 'bounce' your form is usually gone to hell.

Like they say around here...check your ego at the door. If you can DEAD lift it for one rep but can't do another, time to lighten it up.

-p-

markdk86
09-09-2006, 07:29 AM
Break apart the damn term. DEAD-LIFT. Not MOMENTEM-LIFT. Pick up, put down, repeat. No bouncing, no tapping. If you can't pick it up as dead weight EVERY REP, you are doing too much weight. Get rid of the ego, or get out of the gym.

VikingWarlord
09-09-2006, 08:59 AM
Seems natural to me to set it all the way back down at the end of every rep. I never even thought about doing it any other way.

PhilsterT
09-09-2006, 09:54 AM
Well, just to make a point:

There is nothing wrong with momentum. For example: High pulls, cleans, jerks, clean and jerks...

Damn powerlifters using their momentum--psh.

drew
09-09-2006, 10:07 AM
Just keep your back arched and your body tight and do them any damn way you please.

DaoineSidhe
09-09-2006, 10:32 AM
I would think using more control and less speed to raise the weights, then lower them to a stop on the ground would be more beneficial to the muscles targeted and also the stabilizers.

Also, wouldn't bouncing that much weight be harsh on the joints?

Natetaco
09-09-2006, 01:56 PM
Just keep your back arched and your body tight and do them any damn way you please.

i second that

PhilsterT
09-09-2006, 04:23 PM
I would think using more control and less speed to raise the weights, then lower them to a stop on the ground would be more beneficial to the muscles targeted and also the stabilizers.

Also, wouldn't bouncing that much weight be harsh on the joints?

Not necessarily. A constant motion could be beneficial for explosive movements. There are many movements where the lifter does not stop lifting.

The Zach
09-09-2006, 10:08 PM
Too many people think there is only one way to do an exercise. Don't state opinion as fact, makes you look narrowminded and ignorant.
Yeah there are plenty of ways to deadlift! My favorite way to is to deadlift the weight off my chest while lying on a bench!

PS: Exercises have names for a reason. Without them we wouldn't be able to communcate. Therefore, these specifically defined exercises must conform to their definitions, otherwise they appear as mere verbiage that could mean anything.

Furthermore, a deadlift is "a lift in weightlifting in which the weight is lifted from the floor to the level of the hips and then lowered by controlled effort to the floor."

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dead+lift&x=0&y=0

This is not my opinion, it is fact.

Natetaco
09-09-2006, 10:50 PM
Yeah there are plenty of ways to deadlift! My favorite way to is to deadlift the weight off my chest while lying on a bench!

PS: Exercises have names for a reason. Without them we wouldn't be able to communcate. Therefore, these specifically defined exercises must conform to their definitions, otherwise they appear as mere verbiage that could mean anything.

Furthermore, a deadlift is "a lift in weightlifting in which the weight is lifted from the floor to the level of the hips and then lowered by controlled effort to the floor."

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dead+lift&x=0&y=0

This is not my opinion, it is fact.



I think this is the second thread where iv seen you use dictionary reference for a deadlift. what are you trying to prove.

SpecialK
09-09-2006, 11:01 PM
I have recently started resting the bar on the ground between each rep, and have found it makes the set more intense, and I feel I am getting more out of the movement. I did use the touch-and-go technique the OP is describing for a long time though, and had good results.

Alex.V
09-10-2006, 01:07 AM
I think this is the second thread where iv seen you use dictionary reference for a deadlift. what are you trying to prove.

Everything he knows, he learned from teh intarnet!

bjohnso
09-10-2006, 07:37 AM
Like they say around here...check your ego at the door. If you can DEAD lift it for one rep but can't do another, time to lighten it up.

-p-

Unless you're doing singles. Then you can avoid the bounce debate entirely.

Natetaco
09-10-2006, 08:30 AM
Everything he knows, he learned from teh intarnet!

such a reliable source in fact:thumbup:

whiteman90909
09-10-2006, 02:22 PM
He might mean that it is more benificial to tap the bar on the ground if you can controll it. I never just drop the bar, I lower it with the same amount of controll as when I pick it up. I touch the bar to the ground between sets, but I have no momentum when i get to the bottom of the rep, so the bar doesnt bounce. Its alot easier to do this as opposed to dropping the bar from your waist and then getting back down and into position before going for the next rep, which isnt even possible with straps.

SaVvY
09-10-2006, 05:23 PM
at the mo my pulls are pull up, lock out, place down, grab bar, pull up, lock out etc

sometimes ill use bounce if im using rubber plates an looking to build my lower back up though

Ricky Bobby
09-10-2006, 06:00 PM
I am in the pull from floor then set down pause and pull again camp

Songsangnim
09-10-2006, 06:18 PM
He might mean that it is more benificial to tap the bar on the ground if you can controll it. I never just drop the bar, I lower it with the same amount of controll as when I pick it up. I touch the bar to the ground between sets, but I have no momentum when i get to the bottom of the rep, so the bar doesnt bounce. Its alot easier to do this as opposed to dropping the bar from your waist and then getting back down and into position before going for the next rep, which isnt even possible with straps.

Who drops the bar from the waist (when they are deadlifting)? You'd be likely to shear your kneecaps off with that method...not to mention damage to the equipment. If you mean a controlled drop, the lifter is going back down with the bar and into position by the time it touches the ground. I don't think anybody here just drops it after they lock out.

DokterVet
09-10-2006, 08:45 PM
I do them with a pause most of the time, although lately I have been doing them continously hoping to give my back a bit of a break and let my grip catch up.

Keith
09-10-2006, 09:01 PM
Break apart the damn term. DEAD-LIFT. Not MOMENTEM-LIFT. Pick up, put down, repeat. No bouncing, no tapping. If you can't pick it up as dead weight EVERY REP, you are doing too much weight. Get rid of the ego, or get out of the gym.

Behind you 100%.

PhilsterT
09-10-2006, 09:07 PM
Last time I checked it wasn't called "Momentum High Pull" or "Momentum jerk." But, maybe I missed the memo.

I guess you could argue "jerk" implies that you do just that: jerk. But, I guess dead would imply that the weights arn't living...but, that certainly doesn't make sense either, so I don't know.

Give it a rest. It has nothing to do with ego so stop acting all high and mighty..

Nosaj
09-10-2006, 11:49 PM
Yeah there are plenty of ways to deadlift! My favorite way to is to deadlift the weight off my chest while lying on a bench!

PS: Exercises have names for a reason. Without them we wouldn't be able to communcate. Therefore, these specifically defined exercises must conform to their definitions, otherwise they appear as mere verbiage that could mean anything.

Furthermore, a deadlift is "a lift in weightlifting in which the weight is lifted from the floor to the level of the hips and then lowered by controlled effort to the floor."

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=dead+lift&x=0&y=0

This is not my opinion, it is fact.

I wonder how the much dictonary can deadlift? :) You think that having multiple forms of deadlifting means we can't communicate? Maybe you just need to work on your communication skills, everyone else seems to be understanding each other just fine, even while maintaining different points of view. :nod:

Here is my point about deadlifting. There are many different stances, sumo, conventional, narrow, wide, double overhand, switch grip, etc. All of these motions are different variations of the same exercise. Now, I'm not a fan of BOUNCING the weight off the ground, as it takes away from the actually difficulty of the lift drastically, and it can cause danger to the user by promoting bad form. I do not, however, think you must unload the weight to the ground for every rep. I personally like keeping my back tight and all of the weight load applied upon my body for the duration of my lifts. I barely graze the ground between reps, never letting a significant amount of weight deload, but I complete full ROM. Does this mean deloading the weight is incorrect? No. But for me, it takes a LOT more leg effort to pull the weight from a standstill and with little extra benefit to my back. I do deadlifts on my back days, so it makes sense, for me, to not deload the weight for my lats to get the most out of the exercise. To each their own, as long as good form is being used and injury prevention technique is being applied, use the exercise to the best of your ability. And please keep an open mind about things, there are often many solutions to the same problem, and there is almost always someone who can do something better. :rolleyes:

djreef
09-11-2006, 11:31 AM
I've always used a light touchdown - controling the weight through the positive and negative. I couldn't imagine anything more difficult than that.

DJ

MantiXX
09-11-2006, 12:25 PM
I've always done the controlled lift, descent and let go... Pause a second or 2, re-grab the bar and then repeat....

After the set, I see little white stars... usually tells me it was a good set...LOL...

Just my .02..

whiteman90909
09-11-2006, 04:01 PM
Who drops the bar from the waist (when they are deadlifting)? You'd be likely to shear your kneecaps off with that method...not to mention damage to the equipment. If you mean a controlled drop, the lifter is going back down with the bar and into position by the time it touches the ground. I don't think anybody here just drops it after they lock out.
Yeah, well I wasnt sure. Not many people at my gym deadlift, and when I played football people just dropped the bar all the time.

Mr Joshua
09-11-2006, 04:02 PM
I fail to see how "tapping" the floor with the weight gives you a "bounce". This is how I do my deadlifts, I find that for me personally it helps me to keep focus by almost constantly having muscle tension during my set. Nothing wrong with touch-n-go, just make sure to have the weight under control the entire time.

DokterVet
09-11-2006, 05:00 PM
If you can't pick it up as dead weight EVERY REP, you are doing too much weight. Get rid of the ego, or get out of the gym.


I can actually deadlift much heavier weight for reps with a pause than I can touch 'n go.