NO Xplode

[Andre3000]

I recently got some NO Xplode (please no opinions of this) and i was simply wondering someting. My friend who gave it to me had already used about a fifth, and he told me that using th recommended 3 scoops gave him headaches after workoing out and made him feel sick. Today i used it and used one scoop, which was alright, but i don't want to rush into three if it'll make me sick. Os i'm wondering, ahve any of you ahd this experience, and does the smount you should take reflect on your weight?

[Holto]

The headaches could be an elevation in blood pressure which is a common side effect of Arginine. I have gotten headaches just from lifting without supps the first few times I deadlifted two plates. So just training can elevate blood pressure quite a bit. Just ease into it. On a side note your buddy could be prone to high blood pressure or actually have high blood pressure.

Was he experiencing these side effects this summer?

If so, is it really hot where he trains?

[malkore]

Could also be that he didn't drink enough fluid throughout the day, and got dehydrated from the combination of the arginine and creatine.

Its surprising how many people will spend a ton of money on stuff like NO Xplode but then neglect basic diet and hydration needs.

[BG5150]

A lot of caffeine can make the tummy feel ill, too, if you're not used to it. Creatine upsets people's stomachs, too.

[jAy_Dub]

I really doubt it has anything to do with creatine, seein as I dont think it even has a whole gram in one serving. Basically they just put a tiny bit in it to make people beleive it's also a creatine supplement.

[Andre3000]

Well, it couldnt be temperature, because we live in San Francisco. it was most liekly that he wasnt drinking enough. Too many people I know don't drink nearly as much as they're supposed to for the uspplements they are on. you guys have eased my fears a lot. I just ned to htdrate, which he did not do.

[darkdan]

Maybe he's just sensitive to the amount of stimulants in it.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Maybe it's because NO-Xplode is expensive crap and the sickness is brought on by realizing how much money you just wasted. :)

[Andre3000]

I got it for 20, which is cheaper than what i got my creatine for, so its all good.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=10807&PHPSESSID=78645b61273f6fd3d51027989c866ef9

That's about a 400 day supply of creatine for 25 bucks.

[Andre3000]

Oh true, i forgot NO xplode does tend to go rather quickly.

[bradatlsu]

Andre, it probably happened to him because of the caffeine. There's a ton in it, and some people just don't respond well to large amounts of caffeine. I used NO Xplode and it worked pretty well, but the price is what kept me from buying it again.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Or maybe it's because of the artificial sweetener crap they put in there. I tried their flavored creatine. Almost died from horrible stomach aches. Tried regular creatine...no problems.

[pbfreak9999]

Maybe it's because NO-Xplode is expensive crap and the sickness is brought on by realizing how much money you just wasted. :)
amen to that

[Andre3000]

Well, I just took the recommended 3 cups in my drink before my workout, and now, 2 hours after workoing out, i feel fine. It was probably something up with him.

[HeavyBomber]

Maybe it's because NO-Xplode is expensive crap and the sickness is brought on by realizing how much money you just wasted. :)

It is expensive but I love the stuff. Two scoops 1/2 hour before the workout works well for me.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

You love paying for something that you could buy for ten times less?

[HeavyBomber]

You love paying for something that you could buy for ten times less?

Well fill me in dude. I'm not real schooled on my supps.

[SwoleSam]

That berry flavor is insanely delicious. It gets me going pre workout, got wicked pumps from it my first few times that I used it.

lol, since I am poor I stick with 2 cups of black coffee pre workout now :(

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

got wicked pumps from it my first few times that I used it.OMFG when will this end? :bang:

[HeavyBomber]

Okay sCaRz*Of*PaiN,
You seem to know everything so why don't you fill me in on why NO Xplode is crap?

[RedSpikeyThing]

Okay sCaRz*Of*PaiN,
You seem to everything so why don't you fill me in on why NO Xplode is crap?

It doesn't benefit you in any way. It has no ups. Getting a "pump", regardless of what the company is trying to tell you, doesn't do anything for you. It contains a small amount of creatine, which you can purchase ridiculously cheap (http://atlargenutrition.com/nutrition_detail.php?products_id=3&osCsid=126f0e1bb7573dfd2917150eefb406f3) - this is a 100 day supply for $14.50. I think it's even cheaper if you buy the powdered stuff.

[HeavyBomber]

Man, I know about creatine. I specifically bought the nitric oxide for the pump. I like to have a pronounced pump during my workout, what's wrong with that?
I'm not defending NO Xplode in particular so if there are cheaper products please let me know.

All I know is I bought one thing of NO Xplode and I when I take it I get a better pump and I like that.
So to tell me that it doesn't do any good is meaningless to me. I know it doesn't translate to better gains but again, what's wrong with a better pump just for the hell of it?

Don't tell me to eat and squat more, I get all that. I just like a good pump and it's something that I'll pay money for.

[RedSpikeyThing]

Man, I know about creatine. I specifically bought the nitric oxide for the pump. I like to have a pronounced pump during my workout, what's wrong with that?
I'm not defending NO Xplode in particular so if there are cheaper products please let me know.

All I know is I bought one thing of NO Xplode and I when I take it I get a better pump and I like that.
So to tell me that it doesn't do any good is meaningless to me. I know it doesn't translate to better gains but again, what's wrong with a better pump just for the hell of it?

Don't tell me to eat and squat more, I get all that. I just like a good pump and it's something that I'll pay money for.

That's fine. To each their own - I'd rather put the money towards food or a product that will help with my gains. If you like to pay for a pump, that's ok with me.

Props for knowing what it actually does - a lot of people that take it have no idea why it doesn't help you.

Also, I think you can buy straight L-arganine, the functional ingridient in NO Xplode. I would assume it's cheaper - haven't looked into it though.

[HeavyBomber]

Thanks man, arganine... Okay now I have something to research. I'll check it out.

[Holto]

Don't tell me to eat and squat more, I get all that.

Yes.

Yes you do.

I saw your journal.

[PGreezy]

I used NO-Explode for like 4 months. It gave me the ridiculous rush and would just make me tear through a workout like it was nothing. But i soon found that if i wasnt using it my workouts became so much more exhausting. So i gave it up, partly because i didnt want to be dependant on something to get me in the mood and partly because of the price. I gotta say though it definatly gets u amped up like u couldnt get from drinkin 5 joltz. Its not really worth it though.

[Natetaco]

That's fine. To each their own - I'd rather put the money towards food or a product that will help with my gains. If you like to pay for a pump, that's ok with me.

Props for knowing what it actually does - a lot of people that take it have no idea why it doesn't help you.

Also, I think you can buy straight L-arganine, the functional ingridient in NO Xplode. I would assume it's cheaper - haven't looked into it though.


i have tried no-xplode and i have tried arginine pills. I will tell you that the arginine pills did absolutly nothing at all. The no-xplode on the other had did give me a "pump" for about 2 workouts with the 3 scoops then i didnt notice anything after 2 workouts it didnt work anymore. I think its just a mental thing, drink an energy drink like bawls or monster before you workout that seems to work for me.

[Andre3000]

i don't think it's a mental thing. It's just adaptation. W/e i'm going back to good old creatine after i finish my current tub of NO. Too bad it tastes so damn good.

[DCF]

What does N.O. Xplode actually do? My friend bought it a couple day ago and said it worked amazing.

[Andre3000]

Dude, just read the entire tpoic. It essetially gives you a guaranteed pump during yuor workout that lasts long time.

[Slim Schaedle]

Also, I think you can buy straight L-arganine, the functional ingridient in NO Xplode. I would assume it's cheaper - haven't looked into it though.
It's actually arginine alphaketoglutarate, not L-Arginine.

There is a difference, and depending on the user, this difference is literaly felt. (meaning AAKG is what you want)

[Slim Schaedle]

Thanks man, arganine... Okay now I have something to research. I'll check it out.
Bomber, if you are interested, search out some of these on bulknutrition.com...

Arginine AKG
Citruline malate
L-ornithine


Each contributes to eNOS (nitric oxide synthase, the enzyme repsonsible for nitric oxide production, which relaxes the tunica media of the arteries)

Try maybe a 3g/2g/1g dose (just mix raw powder together, slam back, and rinse with a drink) in place of the No-Xplode. Use some caffeine pills as well, if wanted (since no-xplode has caffeine)



Now, for all you people on a crusade against NO products.....I am not advocating them for insane muscle growth, or anything substantial by any means, but GET OVER IT. People are going to pay for asthesics just the same way they pay for cologne, tanning, nice clothes, etc.

Let's move on

[Holto]

Now, for all you people on a crusade against NO products.....I am not advocating them for insane muscle growth, or anything substantial by any means, but GET OVER IT.

Good point.

I didn't have a problem with guys shelling out big dollars for that "Ultimate Orange" or whatever it was called in the 90's.

If it gets you focussed and amped up it's all good.

It's like wearing a walkman. It might not direclty contribute anything nutrition wise but we all know it's a good training tool.

[Holto]

Question:

What does N.O. Xplode actually do? My friend bought it a couple day ago and said it worked amazing.

Answer:

Each contributes to eNOS (nitric oxide synthase, the enzyme repsonsible for nitric oxide production, which relaxes the tunica
media of the arteries)

This is what I love about guys like Slim. You can take some of the terms he throws out and spawn hours of solid learning through google. A quick search for tunica media yielded this diagram.
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The tunica media is the middle layer of the walls of arteries and veins. It is composed of smooth muscle and elastic fibers. This layer is thicker in arteries than in veins.


http://z.about.com/d/biology/1/0/j/1/vessel.gif

If you look at these diagrams you can see the idea that all these tissues shift around to change the internal diamater of the veign or artery. It is one of the ways your body regulates blood pressure.

So NO2 causes a shift in these tissues that opens them up. I assume they narrow the diamater through contraction so when they relax it allows the pressure of the blood to force open the veign or artery.

It also should be noted that this effect does not deliver more nutrients over a given period of time. The reason for this is that the body compensates for the pump by reducing circulation.

[Andre3000]

So it essentially enlarges your veins to allow them to transport more of whatever?

[Holto]

Yes, but the end result is merely a pump as opposed to extra nutrients (which is what most supplement companies claim).

[T1kink4130]

If you are taking NoXplode are you still able to take creatine since the amount of creatine in the product is so low? Or would that be to much creatine causing an adverse affect?

[bradatlsu]

It's not enough to creatine to make a difference.

Next time try "Shock Therapy" by universal nutrition. It's 25 bucks for 50 servings, and all you need is one scoop per day. It is also VERY effective. I get good pumps, and I maintain my energy level for well over an hour.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

After reading the ingredients that seems like an incredible waste of money. If you're trying to get 'good pumps' for anything other than aesthetics, please stop wasting your money.

[BG5150]

Haven't we gone over this crap before in, like, ten other threads?

[T1kink4130]

Well I'll be honest when I purchased the product i was under the impression it had a more significant dose of creatine in it. But does anyone know if you can stack a real creatine supplement with this product ?

[Slim Schaedle]

NO-Xplode is not a creatine product, so let's get over the creatine issue.

Fo real, yo

While it may have a small amount of creatine in it, it is geared towards pre-
workout energy, pumps, focus, etc etc etc.

BSN makes a product called Cell Mass that IS designed as a creatine product.

[Holto]

Fo real, yo.

Istant street creed right there.

[Slim Schaedle]

Istant street creed right there.
fo shizzle ma Holtizzle

[Davidelmo]

Yeah, I second Holto and Slim. I've looked into this quite a bit.

NO is a well-known vasodilator (as slim and holto explained, it literally makes your arteries wider.) In the body arginine or AAKG is eventually converted to NO - that's why taking l-arginine will give similar effects to NO.

So yes, technically more blood will flow to your muscles during and after a workout, BUT...

(read slims post above) - there is a thicker tunica media in arteries than in veins. Plus, arteries are wider and under more pressure anyway. Therefore you're putting lots of blood INTO the muscle, but not as much is leaving.
That's the way I understand it anyway.

What you end up with is a pool of blood in the muscle. Yes it may be a pump, but all of that stuff about delivering extra nutrients is mostly marketing crap.

After a workout your body already knows you have broken down your muscles and it will ajust the flow of nutrients by itself. I trust my body and I just don't see the point to mess with it's internal blood pressure regulation just for fun.

FWIW, NO also is used in prescription high blood pressure meds. If you dilate the vessels you reduce the pressure because the blood has more space to occupy. LKike I said, I dont see why anyone would want to mess with their blood pressure unecessarily.

No-xplode also contains a small amount of creatine, glucose etc... all of which can be bought in huge quantities very cheaply.

[T1kink4130]

Sigh, I dont think the people who keep telling me NoXplode isnt a real creatine product are understanding my question. I understand that NoXplode isnt a real creatine supplement, but it does have a very small amount of creatine per serving. My question is, would it be alrite if you supplemented creatine on top of NoXplode.

[ddegroff]

^ Yes you can stack creatine with it. Just make sure your getting your 5g a day.

[T1kink4130]

Thanks alot, wheres the cheapest place to get good creatine

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

http://atlargenutrition.com/nutrition_detail.php?products_id=3
http://www.supplementdirect.com/?content=52&product_id=10807&PHPSESSID=31483cd644e7d1f64033dfc941347656

[T1kink4130]

Thanks again for all the help.

[Davidelmo]

Sigh, I dont think the people who keep telling me NoXplode isnt a real creatine product are understanding my question. I understand that NoXplode isnt a real creatine supplement, but it does have a very small amount of creatine per serving. My question is, would it be alrite if you supplemented creatine on top of NoXplode.

Yes - take 5g a day.

If you're getting 1g a day from your NOX, then add 4g from another supp. Simple as that :nod:

[Andre3000]

Would it be bad to take 5g on top of the NO, for 6g? Is it detriemental, which don't imagine it would be, or would you just be wasting creatine?

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

There's nothing wrong with that.

[T1kink4130]

Man that creatine is cheap...cost more to ship it then the actual creatine cost.

[Slim Schaedle]

Sigh, I dont think the people who keep telling me NoXplode isnt a real creatine product are understanding my question. I understand that NoXplode isnt a real creatine supplement, but it does have a very small amount of creatine per serving. My question is, would it be alrite if you supplemented creatine on top of NoXplode.
I didn't mean to target you with my post.

It seems that every other thread about NO-Xplode is somewhat littered with comments about its lack of creatine, and it starts to get old.

Yours was a good question.

[Andre3000]

There's nothing wrong with that.

I know there's nothing wrong with it, but will you just wasting that extra g of creatine.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Some creatine gets wasted anyway, which is why you take a few grams more.

[Davidelmo]

Yeah - most people stick to 5g, although I guess if you're 120lbs you could take less and if you're 300lbs you could take more.

Strictly speaking you might not even need to supplement on non-lifting days since the stores in your muscles aren't being depleted.

But I wouldn't worry about insane attention to detail. 5g a day, every day suits almost everyone. Whether or not 1g goes to waste is pretty unimportant - especially since it is so cheap.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

^^

You still need to take creatine on non-lifting days.

[Davidelmo]

^^

You still need to take creatine on non-lifting days.

why?

all the research I did when writing the creatine article for jordanbcool seemed to suggest you dont need to. No workout = no depletion = no need to take it that day.

EIther way, it's just as easy to take 5g a day, every day and that's what I'd suggest for most people.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

It's been advocated like that here for a long time. Where have you been? You're still saturating your muscles with creatine on non-liting days. On non-lifting days days, you can take like half in the AM and the other half in the PM, or whatever you want.

[Davidelmo]

It's been advocated like that here for a long time. Where have you been? You're still saturating your muscles with creatine on non-liting days. On non-lifting days days, you can take like half in the AM and the other half in the PM, or whatever you want.

Yeah I know it's advocated on here, but I always like to challenge popular views if I find evidence to the contrary :D

Either way I doubt it matters much. I dont even use creatine anymore.. didn't feel any benefit whatsoever!

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

didn't feel any benefit whatsoever!Maybe that's because you were only taking it on lifting days.

[Davidelmo]

Maybe that's because you were only taking it on lifting days.

I was taking it every day, lol :D

I even loaded (of course now I know I dont need to) and I used it 5g a day for 6 months. Didn't feel it was doing anything and so I stopped.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

In what way did you think it wasn't doing anything? Have you read everything on this site yet? www.creatinemonohydrate.net

Was your diet and training in check while you were taking it?

[Davidelmo]

In what way did you think it wasn't doing anything? Have you read everything on this site yet? www.creatinemonohydrate.net

Was your diet and training in check while you were taking it?

Yes and yes. Most people report some increase in weight, size or strength after taking it.. I had none of those. I had logs of my workout and diet and strength/endurance gains were nothing above normal progression. I'm not expecting steroid-like results or anything but I didn't feel the benefit.

Some people are just non-responders.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Yes and yes. Most people report some increase in weight, size or strength after taking it.. I had none of those.You're getting benefits from it even if they're not noticeable with your gains. Increased oxygen to the brain is one of many.

[_8_Ball]

Just wanted to add my review. I'll keep it really short.

- I'm on my second tub now.

- I don't get the monster pumps that some have said except in my arms (while going arms, like Xian, it's almost painfull).

- I mostly use it for the energy it gives me, unlike caffein I don't get the shakes

- If I take more then 2 scoops I feel all weird and shaky and get the monster ****s.

- I do financial well enough that I can afford this, but it's not for everyone.

- Did I get massive gains from it??........ no but it helps me work harder in the gym... so it's worth it for me.

That's about it for now...

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[DCF]

I'm trying it this Thursday. I can't wait to see if this works. I hear great things.

[T1kink4130]

I've been using it for a little over a week now and it definetly gives you an energy boost as advertised. I'm one to believe this is due to the large amount of caffiene in the product and for me at least I get the shakes afterwards. I've also noticed i large increase in vascularity although I dont have much reason to believe that increase is having any influence on my growth. All and all this product for me is good to get my ass moving before working out and get me into the gym with a good frame of mind.

[Andre3000]

You're getting benefits from it even if they're not noticeable with your gains. Increased oxygen to the brain is one of many.

Maybe he is a nonresponder.