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RedSpikeyThing
09-24-2006, 10:01 AM
I know that stimulants help you on a cut, but I'm not entirely sure why. Is it because they give you energy in a caloric deficit? Or is it because they boost your metabolic rate?

The reason I ask is because I drink a fair ammount of coffee and I'm trying to bulk. Would this make it more difficult to gain weight?
Holto
09-24-2006, 11:50 AM
Yes and no.

It will increase your energy expenditure, however, if you were using it when you were maintaining then it's reflected in your maintenance cals.

The only way it's a problem is if you are finding it really difficult to get enough cals.

Built says stay away from ECA and other stacks because of the partitioning effects. I don't think this applies to caffeine.
Vapour Trails
09-24-2006, 12:37 PM
A couple cups of coffee a day isn't going to hurt your bulking. Drink up
korexite
10-02-2006, 04:16 PM
i dont think so, works for me. But I prefer lean bulking not just putting on mass size and fat. I pretty much use Pure EC and thermorexin (rotated) year round.
Jinkies
10-02-2006, 04:46 PM
I think I understand what hes getting out, theres been talk that energy drinks( usually fat burners) burn away muscle along with the fat making it difficult to bulk.
Davidelmo
10-03-2006, 11:34 AM
So ECA during a bulk is a no-no?

Would it not help to encourage calories to go into muscle and not into fat? I really dont know much about ECA.
Built
10-03-2006, 11:39 AM
As I understand it, stimulants such as ephedrine and caffeine *can* affect partitioning. Now the question is "by how much?".

My feeling is your regular caffeine intake from beverages is probably fine, and maybe EC before workouts for the extra energy. A lot of people I know do it that way, and they seem to be fine with it. I know I really like that amped feeling EC gives me before a workout!
Eszekial
10-03-2006, 12:45 PM
As I understand it, stimulants such as ephedrine and caffeine *can* affect partitioning. Now the question is "by how much?".

My feeling is your regular caffeine intake from beverages is probably fine, and maybe EC before workouts for the extra energy. A lot of people I know do it that way, and they seem to be fine with it. I know I really like that amped feeling EC gives me before a workout!






Do you still get the amped feeling?!?!

I'd probably have to take 1 caf pill and 2 ephedrine to get any stim effect....
Built
10-03-2006, 12:50 PM
I do - it's not pronounced, but it's there.
TommyBoy
10-03-2006, 12:57 PM
I know I really like that amped feeling EC gives me before a workout!
I also like the amped feeling it gives me; however, I mainly take it because it makes me feel sexy!
Built
10-03-2006, 01:04 PM
Tommy, you're just hot.

I mean think about it - I come back to the back of the gym to get a good whiff of you while you're all sweaty. 'Course, part of that is the "Axe effect" ™ … ;)
Built
10-03-2006, 01:06 PM
Okay, ALL of THAT is the Axe effect.

But you're still hot.

;)
TommyBoy
10-03-2006, 01:10 PM
:thumbup: HAHAHAAHAHAHA, I know I'm hot!
powerrack
10-05-2006, 01:29 PM
Been taking it for every workout, usually anything that has 25mg of ephedrine or so and a minimum of 200mg caffiene up to 400mg caffiene before I train.

I dont' take it on other days, just keeping my tolerance low so I can still feel the stim. affects for my workouts.

It's ok to take on a bulk, it won't make a huge difference and the way it gets you energized for a workout is well worth it.