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Spourk
10-01-2006, 04:05 PM
But its well worth it , ive lost around 10 pounds so far in the last month or so. And gained some muscle ( newbie gains YAY :strong: ) slowly but surely i will sculp this fat body into something presentable. down about a pant size and a half to :)

Steele
10-01-2006, 04:21 PM
Nice going man, although bear in mind the reccomended rate of weight loss by many experts on the boards is roughly 1, possibly 2lbs a week =)

-Steele

Spourk
10-01-2006, 04:28 PM
yeah i know..... but i know i have a high BF % (not the exact havnt got it tested) and its gunna be a little quick at first.

Steele
10-01-2006, 04:30 PM
Yeah it's all to the good. Wish you the best of luck, and hope it goes well ;)

-Steele

Spourk
10-01-2006, 04:32 PM
thank you good sir

Steele
10-01-2006, 04:37 PM
No problem old son, know exactly how much of a nightmare it is to diet :p Pays off in the end though :)

-Steele


thank you good sir

malkore
10-02-2006, 02:49 PM
just stay motivated. after the first 'newbie 6 weeks' things can really slow down and get frustrating.

~LV~
10-02-2006, 02:52 PM
Yup, it is a very slow process to keep lean mass and loose BF but in the end, all the hard work put in is worth it.

Davidelmo
10-02-2006, 02:53 PM
I hope you're traking your diet on www.fitday.com

That site is the single best thing I ever did for my bodybuilding lifestyle

Con
10-02-2006, 02:59 PM
just stay motivated. after the first 'newbie 6 weeks' things can really slow down and get frustrating.

You're telling me, god im gettin such conflicting emotions whenever i look in the mirror, pain in the ass.

Unreal
10-02-2006, 03:10 PM
On an intial diet you can easily lose 5-7lbs of water weight, so 10lbs in the first month isn't bad. Just don't expect it to stay that way the next month.

Holto
10-02-2006, 04:54 PM
Sure overall it may seem like a slow process but take a look around your gym.

The guys that have mass AND are cut probably know how to cut and do it a few times a year. The rest of them look like perma bulkers.

What I'm saying is it's the only way (except insane genetics) you will achieve your goals.

ArchAngel777
10-02-2006, 05:42 PM
I am going to hop in and say that it is easy to get impatient with a cut. I have been cutting for over 2 months and it was/is going so well, but now I am getting impatient. Keep in mind, I also did a 7 month cut before this one I am currently on just 2 months before the second cut.

Cutting is almost a mental battle more than it is a physical one. Sometimes it is easy to get discouraged, say eff it and then pork out. But, you have to remind yourself that it is an emotion and in the end it will pay off.

But one thing I that I heavily agree on, it IS A LONG ROAD! My best advice (honestly) is to just plan on it taking longer and enjoy the ride as much as possible. Look for small things to get your excited, like a new vien popping out, or one belt loop looser... Things like that.

ddegroff
10-03-2006, 04:25 PM
Cutting is almost a mental battle more than it is a physical one. Sometimes it is easy to get discouraged, say eff it and then pork out. But, you have to remind yourself that it is an emotion and in the end it will pay off.

But one thing I that I heavily agree on, it IS A LONG ROAD! My best advice (honestly) is to just plan on it taking longer and enjoy the ride as much as possible. Look for small things to get your excited, like a new vien popping out, or one belt loop looser... Things like that.

Totally agree, comments from family members is great too!

Beholder
10-03-2006, 04:44 PM
Sure overall it may seem like a slow process but take a look around your gym.

The guys that have mass AND are cut probably know how to cut and do it a few times a year. The rest of them look like perma bulkers.

What I'm saying is it's the only way (except insane genetics) you will achieve your goals.
Man its so true, at the gym I go to there are 1 MAYBE 2 people that have mass and are cut. Everyone else is just big and not defined.

growthrep
10-03-2006, 04:57 PM
So true. Most guys who are "bulking" are fat men with strength but if they took off their shirt you'd toss your cookies. Few people have the discipline to be lean. I've been cutting for 10 weeks now and am 220lbs, down 30 from the 250 of disgusting fat where I started. I've been 220 for 3 weeks. The progress was rapid at first but 220 is my first plateau.

The veins in my shoulders and arms are coming in though, as are the upper abs. I see great progress and my belt is down 2 notches. It's a fight to eat below maintenance and to eat nutritious food but I know that if I stick with this come next summer I will be the Adonis on the beach that all the chicks can't take their eyes off and who the guys all envy.

Spourk
10-03-2006, 07:01 PM
Yeha i have not been using fitday i know i need to seeing as i dont eat that much of a variety of foods, so im just being lazy :)

Built
10-03-2006, 07:07 PM
Growthrep, it might be time for you to move into a more advanced approach to cutting.

When was the last time you had a refeed, or a week off dieting?

And maybe it's time to stop doing the AM empty cardio and the higher rep-range training.

Just a thought.

growthrep
10-03-2006, 07:58 PM
Talk to me built. Not sure what you mean entirely. last week though was a cheat week in which I had a Chinese buffet (I ate it ALL).

Can you please elaborate? Thanks so much. I really want to break through 220 and head toward 200 now.

Built
10-04-2006, 11:06 AM
Growthrep
Start with the diet link in my sig.

We need to know your macros first.

growthrep
10-04-2006, 12:20 PM
Hi built! Daily nutirtion intake is as follows:

2500 cals

70 gs fat

240 gs carbs

200 gs protein

I'm 220 lbs. Do weights 3 times a week and dropped HIIT to once a week. Powerwalks twice a week.

ArchAngel777
10-04-2006, 04:19 PM
Hi built! Daily nutirtion intake is as follows:

2500 cals

70 gs fat

240 gs carbs

200 gs protein

I'm 220 lbs. Do weights 3 times a week and dropped HIIT to once a week. Powerwalks twice a week.

You might need to bring them down a few hundred... Try eating 2,250 or even 2,000 if you can.

growthrep
10-04-2006, 05:37 PM
That would be very tough. I'm starving as it is and the BMI calculators I use say that even if I lead a sedentary lifetsyle I could eat 3000 cals to maintain my current weight. I'm eating 500 less than that plus I do a lot of exercise.

Unreal
10-04-2006, 06:13 PM
Those calculators are useless. If your not losing weight, then you have to drop the cals or up your activity. Simple as that. You could try a week off to restart your metabolism or other techniques.

VikingWarlord
10-04-2006, 07:06 PM
Cutting sucks ass, but it's worth it when you're done. I'm down another 15 lbs since 8-20, and that takes the total to 45 since the end of Feb.

Jesus, I want to eat...

RedSpikeyThing
10-04-2006, 07:20 PM
You might need to bring them down a few hundred... Try eating 2,250 or even 2,000 if you can.

Bringing them down 500 is ridiculous. He's just in a plateau, so maybe drop 100-150. Also, your fts look rather low. Should be aroun .5 g / lb LBM. Maybe try trading some carbs for fat - it may also help keep the full feeling longer.

ArchAngel777
10-04-2006, 09:33 PM
Bringing them down 500 is ridiculous. He's just in a plateau, so maybe drop 100-150. Also, your fts look rather low. Should be aroun .5 g / lb LBM. Maybe try trading some carbs for fat - it may also help keep the full feeling longer.

Ridiculous? I think it is ridiculous to drop them 100, which would result in 1 pound every 35 days...

Keith
10-04-2006, 09:56 PM
Damn you all! Bulking is a slow process!!! You don't understand how easy it is for me to properly cut in comparison to bulk. Uhhh...I can't wait to cut in May.

growthrep
10-05-2006, 10:14 AM
OK. Trying to do 2100 cals today. See if I can make it. Weighed in at 219.5 this morning. When I see 218 I'll be back in the zone.......

And yes, cutting for me is much harder than bulking. It is very difficult to always be hungry. When I see my fat arse in the mirror though I remember why I am doing this.

Spourk
10-05-2006, 02:01 PM
being a fat kid from the beginning, fat kida like to eat bulking = EASY lol

Holto
10-05-2006, 02:50 PM
It is very difficult to always be hungry.

This is why you need to eat more fat.