2nd cycle

[kique]

im giving thougth to a 2nd cycle maybe for next summer more than a year apart from my first, and i was wondering if i should try out the sticky "1st cycle" for a clean bulk i really dont want to blow up i just want to gain somethign decent while staying lean. any ideas? im currently 6'0 191 lbs 12.5 % bf 21 years old.

[El Kelio]

Let see how much gains you retain in those 12+ months with a proper diet. But IMO i think you should repeat your first cycle.

[kique]

oh no i meant my last cycle was about a year ago i retained about 11 lbs and im actually kept about 90% of the strength, but i tried something diff which gave me alot of water weight u live and learn, just wondering if test E will be good for a clean bulk as indicated in the sticky, im loooking to gain mayb 15 lbs and try to keep it all satiesfied with keepin jus 10lbs though

[El Kelio]

IMO :
Lean Mass Cycle
Week Parabolan Primobolan
1 -0- 300-400 mg/week
2 -0- 300-400 mg/week
3 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
4 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
8 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
6 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
7 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
8 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
9 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
10 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week

Very good for adding some lean mass for most beginners and intermediate users. Experts would note this is a great stack for cutting as well. For intermediates and vets it may have more use to substitute Primobolan for Equipoise to get some mild aromatization in there. The doses of Trenbolone depend on the compound of course, since Parabolan comes in vials of 76 mg. But assuming you dissolved your Fina evenly; 75 mg makes more sense there. Later on I will have a stack that demonstrates the use of HCG as well, this could be beneficial here as this can be quite suppressive, but Clomid / Nolvadex would have very limited use since the cause of the HPTA suppression isn't post-cycle estrogen.

[Franco]

Where did you copy and paste that from?

[Bohizzle]

if you're 6 ft and 191 after a cycle, i think u could wait a while before u go on another cycle and just bulk naturally, just my opinion though.

Andrew

[DarkSmurf]

oh no i meant my last cycle was about a year ago i retained about 11 lbs and im actually kept about 90% of the strength, but i tried something diff which gave me alot of water weight u live and learn, just wondering if test E will be good for a clean bulk as indicated in the sticky, im loooking to gain mayb 15 lbs and try to keep it all satiesfied with keepin jus 10lbs though

You said you'd be satisfied with keeping 10lbs. My answer: train naturally, gain 1lb a week for 10 weeks. Problem solved. You'd be on that long anyway. You're looking to kill a fly with a cannon and completely overlooking the obvious. Good luck and stick it out. No pun intended.

Just out of curiousity what did you run your first cycle?

[Beast]

Where did you copy and paste that from?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsample.htm

[BCC]

IMO :
Lean Mass Cycle
Week Parabolan Primobolan
1 -0- 300-400 mg/week
2 -0- 300-400 mg/week
3 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
4 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
8 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
6 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
7 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
8 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
9 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week
10 75-76 mg every other day 300-400 mg/week

Very good for adding some lean mass for most beginners and intermediate users. Experts would note this is a great stack for cutting as well. For intermediates and vets it may have more use to substitute Primobolan for Equipoise to get some mild aromatization in there. The doses of Trenbolone depend on the compound of course, since Parabolan comes in vials of 76 mg. But assuming you dissolved your Fina evenly; 75 mg makes more sense there. Later on I will have a stack that demonstrates the use of HCG as well, this could be beneficial here as this can be quite suppressive, but Clomid / Nolvadex would have very limited use since the cause of the HPTA suppression isn't post-cycle estrogen.

A terrible idea. Poor information.

[HILL]

first cycle sticky is all you need i would say

[El Kelio]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsample.htm

Exactly. I did some research about the author, and need to regret about this reply. Agree with BCC.

[Gabrielle]

keep it simple and stick with test. Diet is the key to your lean gains, not really the drug choice my friend

[Bigwhiteboy123]

hmm i would say get to 200 pnds natty then start..

[kique]

i really have no idea how to gain 1 lb a week of muscle dude i think thats a lil impossible if not none of us would need the sweet nectar of the gods(juice) i overtrain as i found thats what works best for my body, and im losing fat but still lifting the same and improving strength while losing weight. and i seriously dont want to bulk and gain any body fat