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MasterOfPuppets
10-28-2006, 01:24 PM
I am 5'8 175 right now, and my numbers are nowhere near impressive yet, but what would be some good PL numbers for a 17 year old at my weight? (In case I compete when I am actually 17)

MOP

drew
10-28-2006, 01:47 PM
350, 225, 350 would probably be a good start.

What are your numbers now?

KevinStarke
10-28-2006, 02:53 PM
Good numbers? Well you could either drop to the 165 class or stay where you are and be in the 181. If you stay 181 your probably looking to compete against raw numbers in the range of... 455/335/500+ if the lifter has had any decent ammount of powerlifting experience. 165 numbers would be a bit lower, what're your current lifts looking like.

Chubrock
10-28-2006, 02:55 PM
It's going to depend heavily on whether you would like these numbers to be "good" compared to the general population, or PLers.

MasterOfPuppets
10-28-2006, 08:07 PM
350, 225, 350 would probably be a good start.

What are your numbers now?
Ok sweet.

Good numbers? Well you could either drop to the 165 class or stay where you are and be in the 181. If you stay 181 your probably looking to compete against raw numbers in the range of... 455/335/500+ if the lifter has had any decent ammount of powerlifting experience. 165 numbers would be a bit lower, what're your current lifts looking like.
Alright well that differs a lot from what drew said. :D for both drew and you my lifts are NOTHING special atm. :p I was just curious about what a good PL would be mine are:
sq- 225
dl- 265
bench-165 all were last tested like idk 2 months ago



It's going to depend heavily on whether you would like these numbers to be "good" compared to the general population, or PLers.
I meant PLers. :)

Thanks guys, I got the answers I wanted lol.

MOP

Bob
10-28-2006, 08:40 PM
Before you get too many ideas from those strong as ox folks like Kevin and Drew... take a look at the Raw Classifications..

http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/pdf/RAWClassificationStandards.pdf

Kevin's number would put you into Elite.. which is the top..

MasterOfPuppets
10-28-2006, 09:19 PM
Before you get too many ideas from those strong as ox folks like Kevin and Drew... take a look at the Raw Classifications..

http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/pdf/RAWClassificationStandards.pdf

Kevin's number would put you into Elite.. which is the top..
I see. Thanks lol.

MOP

drew
10-29-2006, 01:32 AM
I was also taking your age into account. Your current numbers are just fine, keep working hard and working smart. Gain some weight!

Westsidemonster
10-29-2006, 03:58 AM
Good lifts for you would be 543-362-543 pounds...good luck!

Bob
10-29-2006, 05:59 AM
Good lifts for you would be 543-362-543 pounds...good luck!
And you just pulled them from where??

SkinnySadMan
10-29-2006, 09:42 AM
Go with that thing everybody says maybe... lol 1.0x bodyweight bench, 2.0x bodyweight squat and dead. Then work your way up.

Sensei
10-29-2006, 10:38 AM
As a general rule, and a lot will depend on your bodyweight, having a squat and deadlift that is more than 2x your bodyweight and a bench 1.5x your bodyweight is good. Not elite, but pretty damn good.

MasterOfPuppets
10-29-2006, 11:17 AM
I was also taking your age into account. Your current numbers are just fine, keep working hard and working smart. Gain some weight!
Thanks guys. Hey drew this kind of stuck out to me. If I want to improve strength to weight ratio, shouldn't I try to maintain? I am curious why you say to gain weight. Is it because it's easier to gain strength when you gain weight or what?

Thanks again, all.

MOP

drew
10-29-2006, 03:00 PM
Easier to gain strength because you're gaining muscle mass, but moreso you increase your leverages. The more you weight the more leverage you have on the weight, and the more you can lift.

MasterOfPuppets
10-29-2006, 03:22 PM
Easier to gain strength because you're gaining muscle mass, but moreso you increase your leverages. The more you weight the more leverage you have on the weight, and the more you can lift.
Alright, I understand now thanks. :)

MOP

Chris686
10-29-2006, 08:05 PM
As a general rule, and a lot will depend on your bodyweight, having a squat and deadlift that is more than 2x your bodyweight and a bench 1.5x your bodyweight is good. Not elite, but pretty damn good.

Aw gee, thanks :)

Dale Mabry
10-29-2006, 08:51 PM
I am 5'8 175 right now, and my numbers are nowhere near impressive yet, but what would be some good PL numbers for a 17 year old at my weight? (In case I compete when I am actually 17)

MOPYou can look them up here

http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/wrecords.htm

Westsidemonster
10-30-2006, 03:33 AM
And you just pulled them from where??
Competing in the 181lb category (82.5kilos) That would be squat and deadlift 3 tiimes your bodyweight and benching twice your bodyweight. That would make you a ''good'' powerlifter. If you can do more than that, that would be even better, remember, in powerlifting, the stronger you are, the better...;)

Bob
10-30-2006, 06:18 AM
Competing in the 181lb category (82.5kilos) That would be squat and deadlift 3 tiimes your bodyweight and benching twice your bodyweight. That would make you a ''good'' powerlifter. If you can do more than that, that would be even better, remember, in powerlifting, the stronger you are, the better...;)
WestsideMan.. you need to read some of the other posts..
Those numbers would be beyond Elite for a Raw 17 yr. old..
Those number would even be GREAT for a suited, non-drug tested 17 yr. lifter @ 181 lbs.

Putting them all together..
Good starts at BW.. then 1.5 BW BP, 2xBW Squat & DL gets you to great..
The Elite numbers beyond that are posted .. along with the records..
http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/pdf/RAWClassificationStandards.pdf
http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/wrecords.htm

Chubrock
10-30-2006, 06:22 AM
Competing in the 181lb category (82.5kilos) That would be squat and deadlift 3 tiimes your bodyweight and benching twice your bodyweight. That would make you a ''good'' powerlifter. If you can do more than that, that would be even better, remember, in powerlifting, the stronger you are, the better...;)


For as many off the wall comments and questions you ask, why in the world is your name Westside Monster?

Westsidemonster
10-31-2006, 02:15 AM
For as many off the wall comments and questions you ask, why in the world is your name Westside Monster?
And why are you so skinny?

Clifford Gillmore
10-31-2006, 02:27 AM
And why are you so skinny?

Why are you so fat?

getfit
10-31-2006, 02:32 AM
now now everyone,let's keep it cool.

Westsidemonster
10-31-2006, 02:35 AM
Why are you so fat?
Me fat? Dude, I'm ripped!...lol...6% bf, how could you call me fat when you don't even know what I look like?

Westsidemonster
10-31-2006, 02:36 AM
now now everyone,let's keep it cool.
Risk10 is provoking me! Can you please tell him to stop??...Please?

Alex.V
10-31-2006, 06:41 AM
He'll stop. Because apparently you're banned.


Not a moment too soon.

Sidior
10-31-2006, 06:50 AM
He'll stop. Because apparently you're banned.


Not a moment too soon.

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Chubrock
10-31-2006, 08:04 AM
Thank you mods for removing the temptation to say something stupid again.

Sensei
10-31-2006, 02:25 PM
Thank you mods for removing the temptation to say something stupid again.
Not saying he didn't deserve it, but I don't think your goading him on helped much...