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jdeity
11-01-2006, 09:40 AM
As I'm sure you all know, some places say that methylated orals aren't that bad, while others say it's very dangerous. I've got two questions. First, is methylation methylation? Meaning that 50mg of methylated "x" is just as bad as 50mg of methylated "y", or does it matter based on the product that was methylated?

Secondly, how would teh average toxicity compare to another common liver straining product: booze? I was wondering this last night, and thought it would help give a point of reference when people say methylation is very bad. Some people probably think 4 drinks a night is horrible, while others may think it's fine. I figured maybe i'd be able to find elevated enzyme levels for people using booze, and people using methylated orals, and compare the two to find some kind of correlation between the substances, but that turned out to be something i don't think i can do (tried finding good data to input and came up with nothign)

Holto
11-01-2006, 09:32 PM
I miss Hatred.

SpecialK
11-01-2006, 10:37 PM
Taken from the almighty stickies, which everyone is supposed to read:



I'll have to say that oral steroids are not nearly as hard on your system as most people think. Contrary to popular belief, you can run an oral throughout your entire cycle if you wish... and you're not gonna do yourself any harm. Alot of guys can run 100mg anadrol/day for 12 weeks and liver levels won't even come out of the normal range. Some guys I talked to had been runnin 100mg of dbol/day for an entire year and their liver levels were just fine. The only liver protectant they used was ALA or r-ALA, and that was only intermittantly... and more for the effects on insulin sensitivity than for the anti-oxidant characteristics. As long as you have no pre-existing liver problems, avoid the alcohol and other drugs that are notoriously tough on the liver, you're good to go.

jdeity
11-02-2006, 09:29 AM
oh i already read that (god I must be coming off like I haven't read a thing, do I just phrase my questions like a child lol?). I guess i'm just trying to get a frame of reference. Starting to doubt it's an easy reference for anybody to make.... special k thanks for that, if i hadn't read it it would be very important, and the first time i read it, it helped give me a good idea of how toxic they really are.