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xstalkrx
11-05-2006, 04:24 PM
I was reading the article on carbs, as I was looking to buy a weight gainer supplement to aid in putting on some muscle mass.

I'm 6'2 - 175 pounds. It is very hard for me to put on weight.

Anyways, as an after work out shake I was looking to get something like Optimum's Serious Mass. It has the following stats:

Calories 1250
Calories from Fat 40
Total Fat 4.5 g 7%
Saturated Fat 3 g 15%
Cholesterol 75 mg 25%
Total Carbohydrate 252 g 84%
Sugars 40 g
Protein 50 g 100%

Then there is Cyto Gainer with the following claiming complex carbs only...with hardly any sugar:

Calories: 620
Calories From Fat: 45
Total Fat: 5g
Saturated Fat: 3g
Cholesterol: 100mg
Sodium: 110mg
Potassium: 395mg
Total Carbohydrates: 80g
Fiber: 4g
Sugars: 5g
Protein: 56g


I am concerned with the amount of carbs, because if I get too many carbs then fat will likely rarely be burned in my body if I understand the article correctly.

I try and get a lot of egg whites, chicken, and beef in my diet as it is. BUT, I have a terrible time getting enough calories to gain it would seem.

getfit
11-05-2006, 04:38 PM
have a look @ atlargenutrition.

http://atlargenutrition.com/nutrition_detail.php?products_id=2

Stumprrp
11-05-2006, 05:45 PM
Cytogainer is your best bet, if not, Opticen, but the #'s are a big low in the opticen and you really gotta zap it up to make it high cals.

I do this all the time just as a post workout shake, its 1000 calories give or take.

16 oz milk (220 cals 1% milk)
2 scoops nitrean (or whey, 220 cals)
2 large TBPS peanut butter (200 cals)
2 packets of oatmeal (i use quaker weight control, 320 cals)

90 grams of protien and carbs too.

reloaded
11-05-2006, 06:22 PM
Unless you're strapped for time or absolutely mind taking the time, I'd suggest you make your own. You can get some whey or protein blend, oats, and natty pb or some type of nuts and blend it together with milk for a protein shake. You can definately put on the calories and it's a lot cheaper.

xstalkrx
11-05-2006, 09:45 PM
what is natty peanut butter?

getfit
11-06-2006, 01:41 AM
what is natty peanut butter?
natural peanut butter

ShockBoxer
11-06-2006, 07:03 AM
I looked at weight gainers and ultimately I couldn't justify the price per serving when compared to eating the same calorie amount worth of peanuts (weight gainer is about 10 times more expensive).

xstalkrx
11-06-2006, 10:40 AM
can you get natty pb at most stores? i have a kroger and a albertsons near me.

getfit
11-06-2006, 10:48 AM
can you get natty pb at most stores? i have a kroger and a albertsons near me.
yes you can.

Vita
11-06-2006, 11:12 AM
if you enjoy peanut butter, i'd recommend the amazing protein bars found in the recipe section. between adding these 3x/day and eating my burritos for lunch, i've gone from 154 to 168 in less than a month.

basically, evaluate what you eat in a day and replace what you can with higher calorie foods. cheaper too...

nzk
11-06-2006, 04:12 PM
arent u supposed to avoid eating fat and carbs together when trying to gain mass?
per WBB article on gaining mass:

protein and carbs
protein and fats

never fats and carbs
never just carbs

yet most of what u guys suggest for mass has exactly that? confused.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
11-06-2006, 08:40 PM
arent u supposed to avoid eating fat and carbs together when trying to gain mass?No. You have a choice. If you want to get meticulous, then by all means, go ahead. But it isn't going to determine your success for gaining mass. Don't sweat it.

AzBboy
11-07-2006, 08:29 PM
[QUOTE=xstalkrx]

I am concerned with the amount of carbs, because if I get too many carbs then fat will likely rarely be burned in my body if I understand the article correctly.

QUOTE]


If your gonna bulk, don't think your gonna be burning fat, if anything plan on gaining it.

xstalkrx
11-24-2006, 05:02 PM
i tried adding oats to my shake and it didnt mix well at all. I guess I have to set the blender on the highest possible setting?

RedSpikeyThing
11-24-2006, 06:40 PM
You can use a coffe grinder. If you don't have one, put the oats in the blender before ANYTHING else and let them get ground up. Then add everything.

method115
11-24-2006, 07:51 PM
How long would the protien last in a shake that you make yourself. It would sure help at work when were real busy and I'll I can do is drink something. Like would 2-3 cups mixed with 1-2 scoops of whey last for at least 3 hours? That seems reasonable to me but I wanna be sure so I don't waste it.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
11-24-2006, 08:42 PM
If you want it to last longer, add some ground almonds and olive oil to the shake.

Davidelmo
11-25-2006, 03:57 AM
if you enjoy peanut butter, i'd recommend the amazing protein bars found in the recipe section. between adding these 3x/day and eating my burritos for lunch, i've gone from 154 to 168 in less than a month.

basically, evaluate what you eat in a day and replace what you can with higher calorie foods. cheaper too...

Very little of that was muscle, sorry. 14lbs in a month is absolutely ridiculous. I dont want to dampen your spirits but you'd be lucky to have half of that as muscle.

xstalkrx
11-25-2006, 11:00 PM
oats in the blender before anything else...hmmm. wont the oats need SOME kind of liquid in order to grind up properly? That just doesnt seem right.

Davidelmo
11-26-2006, 06:06 AM
oats in the blender before anything else...hmmm. wont the oats need SOME kind of liquid in order to grind up properly? That just doesnt seem right.

No, blend them dry and they turn into a fine powder which mixes much better and suspends in the shake.

If you added liquid you'll probably just get a clumpy mess.