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kique
11-06-2006, 10:13 AM
i was told by a friend that he read a study linking AAS to definitely having heart attacks at around 40+ years of age. any long term users care to share some knowledge on this cloudy subject that i have here.

BCC
11-06-2006, 11:13 AM
Find and post the study.

Beast
11-06-2006, 11:37 AM
There is definite evidence of a link between AAS and heart damage, but no one knows the exact pathophysiology of it.

There are 4 hypotheses of AAS causing heart disease:
1) an atherogenic model involving the effects of AAS on lipoprotein concentrations
2) a thrombosis model involving the effects of AAS on clotting factors and platelets
3) a vasospasm model involving the effects of AAS on the vascular nitric oxide system
4) a direct myocardial injury model involving the effects of AAS on individual myocardial cells.
(from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=8531623&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum )


Here are a few studies linking AAS and MI. Keep in mind that they mostly isolated cases:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12707792

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=14743229&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=10975042&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=9715231&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=8759570&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=8821428&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum

kique
11-06-2006, 12:04 PM
well have you guys heard of any specific cases? i really had my sights on getting into a second cycle and now the heart issue is a little disturbing.

Beast
11-06-2006, 06:04 PM
What do you mean by specific cases?

kique
11-06-2006, 06:50 PM
like have you personally heard of any people having heart attacks with the main cause being juice

Beast
11-06-2006, 08:52 PM
Nope.

HILL
11-07-2006, 04:15 PM
i dont believe theirs ever been a death or anything life threatening proved to steroid use but i could be wrong