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waynedang
12-17-2006, 11:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnjXLQE2joA

Not a great vid but I am sure more will follow

WBBIRL
12-17-2006, 11:10 AM
Insane

cphafner
12-17-2006, 11:50 AM
I thought you had to press both arms evenly for a legal press.

KevinStarke
12-17-2006, 12:09 PM
Good ol' powerlifting of today CP.

deeder
12-17-2006, 02:16 PM
Seems like with the big boys they bend the rules a bit :p

cphafner
12-17-2006, 03:24 PM
Seems like with the big boys they bend the rules a bit :p

It also depends the federation. Some are more lenient that others. Atleast he paused this time.

Natetaco
12-17-2006, 03:42 PM
i was reading an couple of month old article in muscle and fitness with scott mendelson and it said in the interview he benched 1015 but it wasnt official. anyone read that issue?

Bigmonster777
12-18-2006, 02:15 AM
So who has the world record now? Scott or Gene?

WillKuenzel
12-18-2006, 06:01 AM
I thought you had to press both arms evenly for a legal press.Not that I'm aware of. Just so long as neither arm dips and then represses it really doesn't matter how either arm goes up and both arms get completely locked at the top. At least from what I've seen in either the USAPL or the APF.

NickW
12-18-2006, 06:10 AM
So who has the world record now? Scott or Gene?

Gene does

ritz600
12-18-2006, 07:31 AM
amazing!

LivinItUp
12-18-2006, 07:34 AM
amazing!

:eek:

-Superman-
12-18-2006, 09:49 AM
I think it was a great bench. However, I am not a fan of the powerlifting gear assisted benches. I am more into the raw feats you see in the World's Strongest Man competition where they usually don't have anything more than a support belt. Some of them do a lot of the things shirtless which is even more respectable. I also like the NFL Strongman competition where they rep out 225 lbs on the bench for as many times as they can. I think Joey Porter won last year with like 30+ reps. :D

SaVvY
12-18-2006, 10:12 AM
no he didn't bench 1010lbs, he would be instantly crushed by that weight - a shirt and him benched 1010lbs - nothing against gene, but i dont understand why this is called powerlifting

Sidior
12-18-2006, 10:54 AM
no he didn't bench 1010lbs, he would be instantly crushed by that weight - a shirt and him benched 1010lbs - nothing against gene, but i dont understand why this is called powerlifting

What should it be called?

There are raw feds and there are equipped ones. A raw 600 bench is impressive, so is an equipped 1000lb bench. It does not mean one is better than the other.

stilysh
12-18-2006, 11:12 AM
I have to agree with Sidior. Everyone has their own preferences. I don't feel one is better than the other, but seeing someone throw up 1000+ lbs is very impressive none the less, just as Mendelson's 713 raw was impressive.
Stiles

deeder
12-18-2006, 04:04 PM
no he didn't bench 1010lbs, he would be instantly crushed by that weight - a shirt and him benched 1010lbs - nothing against gene, but i dont understand why this is called powerlifting

Ok... Get a shirt on and push out 1000lbs. It still takes amazing strength.

Oh, also... You do realize that the shirt helps the most at the bottom of the lift. The shirt provides little support for the lockout...

WillKuenzel
12-18-2006, 05:19 PM
The "equipment vs. raw" thing has been done to death. If you want to continue discussing it, please feel free to do so in another thread. Thank you.

Back on topic, its an impressive lift. I like how "smooth" it looked. I use the term loosely as some people might not look at it that way but after having been to a powerlifting meet where they had some bench only competitors, I was thoroughly unimpressed. Guys that were getting all kinds of psyched up for a 500lbs bench were wobbly as hell with it. Some got it dumped on their face or stomach while others just looked like they should have been trying for a 300lb bench.

For those that think a shirt does it, I saw a guy in a triple ply denim, weighing close to 275 miss 500lbs 3 times. Each time looked worse than the last. In that same meet I saw a guy weighing about 165 use another guy's shirt that was a size bigger than him (the 165lbs dude forgot his shirt). He easily benched 450.

Raw, equipped, I don't give a ****, if it were that easy in a shirt they'd be more people doing because they could. Hell, if I thought I could do it, I would because that in itself would carry me through a big powerlifting meet. Its impressive. Period.

Fuzzy
12-19-2006, 05:21 AM
Ive always wandered, if the DL record is 1003, and the BP is 1010... how does that work.

I dont think there is a person on the planet who can bench as much or more then they deadlift. Sure both were set by different people, but shouldent the DL record be much bigger in comparison to the BP...

Or, does the shirt really give you that much?

phreak
12-19-2006, 06:37 AM
Ive always wandered, if the DL record is 1003, and the BP is 1010... how does that work.

I dont think there is a person on the planet who can bench as much or more then they deadlift. Sure both were set by different people, but shouldent the DL record be much bigger in comparison to the BP...
The unequiped BP and DL records do differ markedly. 713 <-> 970. But there are people who genuinely can bench more than they can deadlift. There aren't many, but it happens. Often when someone is built to bench, they will suck at deadlifting. Just as there are people with chimp arms who DL triple bodyweight easily, but can't bench bw to save their life. But on the whole the deadlift should be significantly higher.



Or, does the shirt really give you that much?That too. Sure there are people that have to work for years to get 40 Lbs out of their shirt. But they are the minority. For anyone who is not a complete fool it is highly doable to get 20-25% out of a modern shirt within a few months. (I know I did. And in only 3 weeks too.)

NB:
This is not to demean the performance by Gene Rychlak. 1010 is amazing, and a tremendous feat of strength -- even if he does get 3-400 Lbs out of his shirt. That still means he is capable of benching at least in the high 500s raw, AND he has the strength to lock out and control 1010 Lbs without his shirt.

galileo
12-19-2006, 06:45 AM
I wish I had chimp arms. :(

SaVvY
12-19-2006, 06:53 AM
Ok... Get a shirt on and push out 1000lbs. It still takes amazing strength.

Oh, also... You do realize that the shirt helps the most at the bottom of the lift. The shirt provides little support for the lockout...
no, why would i put a shirt on?

like i said, nothing against gene, hes a very strong bencher, but lets be honest about it, the whole shirt thing is just rediculous - countless people have said this over and over, it completely destroys the sport

theres no real reason for it other than to put more weight on the bar, which in my opinion is just like so what? who cares what a shirt an you can do?? i was wanted to see what 'your' strength level is

the reason why i dont understand why its called powerlifting, is because its about making the most out of the shirt just as much as it is about strength (which aint power anyway!)

Guido
12-19-2006, 07:10 AM
Ive always wandered, if the DL record is 1003, and the BP is 1010... how does that work.

I dont think there is a person on the planet who can bench as much or more then they deadlift. Sure both were set by different people, but shouldent the DL record be much bigger in comparison to the BP...

Or, does the shirt really give you that much?Dude, even with no equipment, there are a LOT of people who can bench more than they deadlift. Sad but true.

Yes, a shirt CAN give you that much. I get 100+ lbs out of it. Guys like Scott Mendelsohn and Gene Rychlak get 300+ lbs out of it.

phreak
12-19-2006, 07:22 AM
Dude, even with no equipment, there are a LOT of people who can bench more than they deadlift. Sad but true.A side note: Not all people who bench more than they deadlift are curl jockeys who simply do not train it. Short, stubby lifters with long torsos generally have a hard time DLing more than they bench. There are always exceptions, of course.

pipes
12-19-2006, 07:33 AM
The "equipment vs. raw" thing has been done to death. If you want to continue discussing it, please feel free to do so in another thread. Thank you.

Back on topic, its an impressive lift. I like how "smooth" it looked. I use the term loosely as some people might not look at it that way but after having been to a powerlifting meet where they had some bench only competitors, I was thoroughly unimpressed. Guys that were getting all kinds of psyched up for a 500lbs bench were wobbly as hell with it. Some got it dumped on their face or stomach while others just looked like they should have been trying for a 300lb bench.

For those that think a shirt does it, I saw a guy in a triple ply denim, weighing close to 275 miss 500lbs 3 times. Each time looked worse than the last. In that same meet I saw a guy weighing about 165 use another guy's shirt that was a size bigger than him (the 165lbs dude forgot his shirt). He easily benched 450.

Raw, equipped, I don't give a ****, if it were that easy in a shirt they'd be more people doing because they could. Hell, if I thought I could do it, I would because that in itself would carry me through a big powerlifting meet. Its impressive. Period.



I like how you tell everyone else to talk about the 'raw vs. bench' thing in another thread and then you pretty much ramble on about it in your entire post.

WillKuenzel
12-19-2006, 08:01 AM
My discussion isn't about "raw vs. equipped" but that its impressive. I've seen guys in shirts not be able to do that, but I've seen guys raw do more than some guys in shirts.

The main idea of my "rambling" was regardless of how it was done that it was done relatively smooth and he didn't drop it, bounce it, or look like an earthquake was going on while he was doing it.

In order to clarify what I said in my original post, since reading comprehension is at a low today in here:

1st paragraph: the raw vs. equiped goes somewhere else.

2nd paragraph: it was a smooth lift. Raw or shirted, that's a lot of weight to handle cleanly.

3rd paragraph: the little guy I was talking about was extremely strong and a very good raw bencher to begin with, and again an impressive lifter watch, same as Gene.

4th paragraph: I do get a bit off topic, but you do what you have to in order to win.

Main idea: discuss the lift (or similar), not the merits of raw vs. equipped.

waynedang
12-20-2006, 07:46 PM
Another vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlDWdfTAx8o

DiViN
12-22-2006, 04:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF1kRLJ_4B8 - in this youtube vid scott attempts 1049 lbs and can't get it to touch his chest, can someone explain this to me? How can a shirt fight 1049 lbs, did he feel like maybe his shirt was being stretched too tight and would break?

Also in this vid he drops 1038lbs on himself, OUCH@!

HeavyBomber
12-22-2006, 05:05 PM
DiViN,
His shirt was tracking wrong on both lifts.

I don't think Gene locked out on the 1010 bench. I would have given him a red light.

... and then run like hell. lol

HeavyBomber
12-30-2006, 10:48 PM
It's been nine days since I said I'd have red lighted him. I cannot believe I haven't been flamed to death by now. lol

bill
12-31-2006, 01:40 PM
HB do you need glasses? J/K
looked ok to me, I wouldn't want red light any of those big guys LOL

HeavyBomber
01-01-2007, 06:48 PM
I don't know man, in the first vid you can clearly see his left arm lags and he never gets locked before it starts to fail and the spotters step in. <runs for cover> lol

Guido
01-02-2007, 10:52 AM
I agree with HB. That would not have counted in a strictly judged PL meet. Certainly not any that I've been in.

Big at Birth
01-07-2007, 01:30 AM
I never liked the bench shirts So I make all my lifts in nothing but a loincloth It aint pretty but its all me

HeavyBomber
01-07-2007, 07:21 PM
lol, a loincloth... lol

Yeah, I hate shirts too but I want that best overall lifter award and the only way I'll ever get it is if I wear one and get that extra weight on my bench.