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JamesBOMB
12-21-2006, 07:43 PM
I do seated military. NO machines or smith allowed, gotta be free weight

My best is 225x6

-Superman-
12-21-2006, 07:49 PM
Not yet. I can only do 100 lbs at 10 reps. Anything else, and I can't even get it into proper position to military press it. :D

EvanH
12-21-2006, 08:03 PM
Kinda, I did 190x1 (I weight 185) the other day.

I am recovering from a torn rotator cuff too, so I am pretty damn proud of that. :p

JamesBOMB
12-21-2006, 08:24 PM
Oh, are we including injuries to?:) I just got back from 9 months of self rehabilitating my teres minor and rc after I tore em. RC still needs a little work but its about 85%:thumbup: Before injury I was at 245x5:(

Stumprrp
12-21-2006, 08:25 PM
i dont do my shoulder stuff seated, my best strict press is 215 i believe, best push press is 245, and 1 arm DB 100 x 6 with my right hand. left is behind.

cool thread man.

HeavyBomber
12-21-2006, 08:25 PM
Standing overhead? yes I can do my bodyweight.

whiteman90909
12-21-2006, 08:43 PM
I can jerk over 200, but strict form standing? I could get my bodyweight... but that would be a max.

HeavyBomber
12-21-2006, 09:07 PM
I do seated military. NO machines or smith allowed, gotta be free weight

My best is 225x6

225 for 6 seated is awesome. Good job man.

Sleepy Guy
12-21-2006, 09:08 PM
I push press my girlfriend once.

JamesBOMB
12-21-2006, 09:10 PM
Is seated harder than standing or what? I only do seated to avoid cheating with my legs and I can put more focus into the lift instead of balancing.

-Superman-
12-21-2006, 09:13 PM
Is seated harder than standing or what? I only do seated to avoid cheating with my legs and I can put more focus into the lift instead of balancing.

I thought standing is the correct way to do the military press. I haven't heard of most of these exercises until recently and I just use those diagrams on the ExRx site. The guy doing the military press is standing there. I might be wrong though. :thumbup:

Sleepy Guy
12-21-2006, 09:15 PM
If you do them strict standing is much harder. Try it. NO dipping the legs.
I think I got 85lbs one hand that way.

bill
12-21-2006, 09:17 PM
Seated is easier for me if your not using legs in the standing.

Tofer
12-21-2006, 09:27 PM
Is seated harder than standing or what? I only do seated to avoid cheating with my legs and I can put more focus into the lift instead of balancing.
I'd say standing is a lot harder, because you really have to have a strong core to push the weight up above your head, without shaking violently. But 225x6 seated is impressive. Try out standing OH press next time and test out what kind of numbers you can get. For some people it's not a huge difference, but for me it definitely is.

bill
12-21-2006, 09:32 PM
I agree tofer big difference.

HeavyBomber
12-21-2006, 09:36 PM
Yes, I would say standing is more difficult for the reasons stated. Personally, the angle I fnd myself in seated gves my shoulder joints problems (I'm old). Standing allows me to position myself better in the center of gravity and my joints do much better. So to me, standing is easier.

MixmasterNash
12-21-2006, 09:39 PM
It's much safer to do them standing. Sitting places all of the weight on your spinal column, without using your body's primary shock absorbers.

I'm still far away from strictly pressing my bodyweight overhead. :(

Progress
12-21-2006, 09:50 PM
When doing standing, BB milies with bar in front, do you guys let the bar touch or come close to touching your chest?

Chris686
12-21-2006, 09:51 PM
If seated is so much easier I might be able to do my BW seated seeing as how I think I'd be able to get close standing. But this is not really a lift I ever plan to max out on as I feel it's pointless.

Really, I haven't maxed in months since I see no real reason to other than to boost my ego.

Chris686
12-21-2006, 09:53 PM
When doing standing, BB milies with bar in front, do you guys let the bar touch or come close to touching your chest?

The bar should always be used in front.

Is it anatomically possible to touch your chest? Maybe it depends on the individual, because I could see no way that I could touch my chest.

BFGUITAR
12-21-2006, 10:00 PM
I can do 110 barbell, strict standing, about 6 times.
Not too bad I hope lol

ViciousBish
12-21-2006, 10:18 PM
100 lb dumbells in both hands x 8 reps, seated

JamesBOMB
12-22-2006, 02:32 AM
When doing standing, BB milies with bar in front, do you guys let the bar touch or come close to touching your chest?

I go to around my mouth, anylower I am afraid

tsmithy
12-22-2006, 02:35 AM
pre injury I was doing 132 * 8 standing strict full ROM bar to upper chest at 170lb(was getting new PB every week - injury stopped all progress), would like to think I would have got 1 rep max at 170 if I had tried.

Progress
12-22-2006, 06:04 AM
The bar should always be used in front.

Many people who do push presses go behind the neck.


Is it anatomically possible to touch your chest? Maybe it depends on the individual, because I could see no way that I could touch my chest.
My starting position with standing milies is with the bar in a sort of a front squat position. So yeah, it's possible for me.

I go to around my mouth, anylower I am afraid
You're afraid of full ROM?

Stumprrp
12-22-2006, 07:44 AM
standing is MUCH more difficult, i personally go to my chest and up, no issues.

actually going to the gym in a bit to max out push presses.

standing 2 arm dumbbell is quite the challenege also

MixmasterNash
12-22-2006, 08:39 AM
Many people who do push presses go behind the neck.
Push presses BTN are much safer. The trouble with BTN is strictly pressing out the low position because your rotator cuffs are in a very bad position to apply force

djreef
12-22-2006, 09:18 AM
So you need that little jerk coming out of the hole to get your momentum started, so as to not unduly stress the rotators. I think I can see the reasoning there. OBTW, mine is 245 X 5 @ 220lbs seated, but it's been a while since I've done seated. I'm with HB, my rotators don't stress so much when I'm standing, so while I can't press as much, due to leverage issues, I don't have the impingement issues that I have when seated.

DJ

Stumprrp
12-22-2006, 09:25 AM
damn, i missed 250 4 attempts, haha, funny because 225 was like the bar!

BTN PP you can also get a ton of force, i will go heavy on these in my school gym with bumper plates.

Guido
12-22-2006, 09:41 AM
I never do seated shoulder stuff, or at least I haven't in a LONG while. I used to do 95lb DB's for like 6 reps on seated shoulder press, though.

I have push pressed a log of 205 lbs after cleaning it. That's about my bodyweight. I could probably push press a lot more without having to clean it and using a barbell from BTN but I haven't tried it.

EvanH
12-22-2006, 10:27 AM
Oh, are we including injuries to?:) I just got back from 9 months of self rehabilitating my teres minor and rc after I tore em. RC still needs a little work but its about 85%:thumbup: Before injury I was at 245x5:(

245x5? You are an animal :strong:

bjohnso
12-22-2006, 10:31 AM
185*1 with a full ROM. Unfortunately, I weigh about 220 :(

ArchAngel777
12-22-2006, 10:44 AM
Seated is easier than standing, no doubts there. You can arch your back seated AND get support for it. This almost turns the seated press into an incline. You also can focus more because you do not have to keep your balance and do not have to use your legs.

I can do 185 X 1 for strict miltary (no arch, locked knees) I could do 205 if I arched and as for seated? 205+ eps

BW: 176

Bob
12-22-2006, 04:10 PM
I can do seated MPs 185 x 4.. .with a max around 205..
I've never really maxed on standing, but I think one on my recent workouts I did 175 x4.. (**note to self, find my journal)
I've push pressed 235..

I've always dreamt of pushing 3PPS over my head..
One of my goals for strongman training is to build up to that by June...
(**note to self.. I think I can..I think I can..I think I can..I think I can..)

John04Civic
12-22-2006, 04:25 PM
I do seated military. NO machines or smith allowed, gotta be free weight

My best is 225x6
About 135 6 - 8 times for me.

JamesBOMB
12-22-2006, 05:02 PM
hey welcome back stranger!

Gabrielle
12-22-2006, 07:12 PM
I can do my bw, but there is a guy in my gym that can almost do 2x his bodyweight in standing militaries. It is pretty sick

Jordanbcool
12-22-2006, 07:36 PM
I can do my bw, but there is a guy in my gym that can almost do 2x his bodyweight in standing militaries. It is pretty sick

Thats impressive. I have mad respect for anyone that can press their bodyweight.

I'm 230 right now and my max on shoulder press is probably like 155 or something....and my shoulders are pretty developed.

Sleepy Guy
12-22-2006, 08:27 PM
Would it be sporting to have a best in class posting/competition. I would love to see how people stack up here.

Letís say heaviest lifts and best power to weight ratio. What do you think? Who would have the Wanna Be Big bragging rights? Or would that break some rules?

A few could out line some major lifts and we post out best according to simple rules. Honors system and all.

I have been part of the British postal league for the past year and it was a great motivator. I learned a few new things and pushed myself harder.

deeder
12-22-2006, 11:09 PM
Standing is definately harder... I won't even mention what I can press but a full ROM makes it TONS harder..

To all you guys bragging about partial ROM weights. Drop the EGO and use a weight you can handle.

JamesBOMB
12-22-2006, 11:47 PM
I hope your not claiming my lifts not full range of motion. I may not drop it tomy chest (in favor of my health) but I still have way over 20" of travel

bloodninja
12-23-2006, 01:58 AM
I hope your not claiming my lifts not full range of motion. I may not drop it tomy chest (in favor of my health) but I still have way over 20" of travel

It's really not the full rom if it doesn't go to your chest. You're missing a quarter of the lift.

Edit, and I understand your shoulder situation, so don't think I'm ragging on you.

JamesBOMB
12-23-2006, 01:59 AM
Oh well, I favor my r/c to much I am tired of them being injured. Im still proud

jtteg_x
12-23-2006, 06:17 PM
my shoulders was always a weak point for me which was the reason why my bench suffered compared to my s/d. the most ive done standing bb military was 105lbx6 @ 192lb bw.