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Reinier
02-14-2002, 11:45 AM
meal 1
2 full eggs
80 grams of oats
300 ml milk
1000 mg vitamin C
multivitamin (50% RDA on all)

meal 2
40 grams of peanuts
ham or chicken sandwich

meal 3
ham or chicken sandwich
500 ml milk
apple

meal 4
80 grams of oats
1 full egg
300 ml milk

meal 5
family dinner
by average like 200 grams of meat
50 grams of potatoes
100 grams of veggies
multivit (50% RDA)

meal 6
yoghurt (skim)
peanuts 40 grams

meal 7
130 grams of tuna

post workout 2 scoops of whey with water
2 slices of white bread

i know this is not too great but i dont really know what to do.
any suggestions are welcome this is just a thought it clearly needs work

syntekz
02-14-2002, 11:47 AM
post the macros.

Reinier
02-14-2002, 11:47 AM
some sources i like/are available to me

carbs

ww bread
oats
veggies
fruit

fat

peanuts
olive oil

protein

chicken
tuna
turkey
whey
milk
eggs
peanuts

Reinier
02-14-2002, 11:48 AM
well if the diet itself has any clear mistakes in it why already start the math stuff

syntekz
02-14-2002, 11:54 AM
because i dont know the values for 80 grams of oats or a ham sandwhich, etc etc.

gino
02-14-2002, 12:18 PM
I'd cut down on the milk dairy products. They have a lot of sugar. An 8 oz glass of skim milk has like 12-14g of sugar. Yoghurt has even more. Save the milk/yoghurt for post workout and load up on it.

Reinier
02-14-2002, 12:30 PM
ok ok....

meal 1 P 32 grams C 73 grams F 16 grams f
2 full eggs 13 gram p 1 gram c 11 grams f
80 grams of oats 60 gram c 8 gram p 1 gram F
300 ml milk 11 gram p 12 gram c 4 gram f
1000 mg vitamin C
multivitamin (50% RDA on all)

meal 2
40 grams of peanuts 22.4 grams f 11 grams p 1 gram c
chicken breast sandwich (60 gram chicken breast)
6 grams f 49 grams c 19 grams p

meal 3
ham or chicken sandwich (just a slice)
500 ml milk 17.5 grams p 20 grams c 7.5 grams f
apple 15 grams c


meal 4
80 grams of oats 60 gram c 8 gram p 1 gram F
1 full egg 6 gram p 5 grams f
300 ml milk 11 grams p 12 grams c 4.5 grams f

meal 5
family dinner
by average like 200 grams of meat 36 grams p 20 grams f 2 grams c
50 grams of potatoes 10 grams c
100 grams of veggies 5 grams c 3 grams p
multivit (50% RDA)

meal 6
yoghurt (skim) 300 ml 12 grams p 12 grams c
peanuts 40 grams 22.4 grams f 11 grams p 1 gram c


meal 7
130 grams of tuna 35 grams p

i dont know the exact macro content of tuna but dont you?

Reinier
02-14-2002, 12:35 PM
cut down on the diary?
damn.....

TreeTrunks
02-14-2002, 12:37 PM
milk sugar is a low GI carb isn't it gino?

Reinier
02-14-2002, 12:38 PM
could somebody have told me some earlier that diary has all that sugar? ive been living basically off diary for months

gino
02-14-2002, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by TreeTrunks
milk sugar is a low GI carb isn't it gino?

Well, it's not high GI, but I wouldn't be drinking it several times a day while cutting like he had planned, or post workout like I had suggested. Yogurt post workout could be good, but milk GI isn't high enough. Skim milk is higher GI than whole milk and artificially sweetened yoghurt is lower GI than regular, as well.

Reinier
02-16-2002, 02:18 AM
*bump*

Reinier
02-17-2002, 06:11 AM
could somebody please help me out with this. if i know a diet is good ill certainly be much more motivated to stick to it... and it sounds like this one just sucks

max_power
02-17-2002, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by gino


Well, it's not high GI, but I wouldn't be drinking it several times a day while cutting like he had planned, or post workout like I had suggested. Yogurt post workout could be good, but milk GI isn't high enough. Skim milk is higher GI than whole milk and artificially sweetened yoghurt is lower GI than regular, as well.

I completely agree with you,

max_power

Wizard
02-17-2002, 01:01 PM
Rein,just forget the milk while you're cutting if you wanna do it hardcore.Some yoghurt is ok but prefere not to consume large quantities of lactose. Don't forget to supplement your diet with some calcium.

Vynod
02-17-2002, 01:33 PM
I think you eat too many FULL eggs a day. Eat as much egg whites but no more than 1 yolk. I personally hate yolks cos they are too high in cholestrol.

max_power
02-17-2002, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Wizard
Rein,just forget the milk while you're cutting if you wanna do it hardcore.Some yoghurt is ok but prefere not to consume large quantities of lactose. Don't forget to supplement your diet with some calcium.

Well I think it depends on the cutting he want to do. If he wants to do an hard cutting then I completely agree with you. But if he wanna simply get thinner milk is a very helpful food. I'm talking about skimmed milk.
I'm cutting now and I drink about 1500ml of milk per day.Well...it's total skimmed milk. And I get thinner and thinner. Anyway I'll put off it of course when I must do the final cutting...when I'll be at the top of my definition. But for now I don't want to renounce to my milk. Consider that 500 ml of total skimmed milg give you:

Calories 174
Proteins 17,00 gr
Carbhoidrates 24,00 gr
Fats 0,1 gr

max_power

Reinier
02-21-2002, 11:35 AM
i want to get down to say 10% bf while losing the least possible muscle.
im now like 23%, i have cutting scheduled till like auggust

David
02-21-2002, 03:11 PM
you dont look like you're 23% in the pic you posted

YatesNightBlade
02-22-2002, 03:50 AM
Why are you cutting ??

I wouldn't bother. Do you really think you have enough muscle mass to start cutting ???

Eat clean and do some cardio and you'll be in good shape and still be building muscle. People who haven't been training very long and are cutting are simply wasting time, IMO.

Tryska
02-22-2002, 04:41 AM
especially considering the muscle mass you put on will only help you cut even easier later downt he road.

Reinier
02-22-2002, 01:28 PM
well yates cuz im like 25 %

David
02-22-2002, 01:41 PM
yeah, but you are a tall long dude and so even at 25% you still look "skinny" so to speak.

David
02-22-2002, 01:41 PM
post us your stats