Hold your wee for a Wii!!!!!!! n then go die!!

[geoffgarcia]

"SACRAMENTO, California (AP) -- A woman who competed in a radio station's contest to see how much water she could drink without going to the bathroom died of water intoxication, the coroner's office said Saturday.

Jennifer Strange, 28, was found dead Friday in her suburban Rancho Cordova home hours after taking part in the "Hold Your Wee for a Wii" contest in which KDND 107.9 promised a Nintendo Wii video game system for the winner."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/13/water.intox.ap/index.html
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How much water


water intoxication.
What happens is the sodium level in the blood reaches very low levels (because of dilution by excess water which can only be excreted in the urine, sweat or breath). This disturbs water balance in the brain, which can cause epileptic seizures and even death.

Research has shown that a person can safely drink up to 10 liters of water a day. An exception would be persons with kidney disease who are limited in the amount of water they can drink per day. Persons with bladder infections benefit from increasing their water intake.
http://www.dietitian.com/fluids.html



A large volume of water thins the blood and can actually make you "drunk." It washes water soluble nutrients (such as B vitamins) from the body. For a few persons with congestive heart disease or other conditions, serious edema or other conditions might occur. The kidneys have to work harder to remove the excess water from the body and that too must be taken into account. Someone drinking a lot of water would have to take vitamins and minerals to replace those purged from the body and would have to carefully avoid salt.
http://www.prisoners.com/cwaterd.html



"water intoxication." Is usually associated with long distance events like running and cycling, it’s not an unusual problem.
For example, water intoxication was reported in 18% of marathon runners and in 29% of the finishers in a Hawaiian Ironman Triathlon in studies published recently in the Annals of Internal Medicine and in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise respectively.

What happens is that as the athlete consumes large amounts of water over the course of the event, blood plasma (the liquid part of blood) increases. As this takes place, the salt content of the blood is diluted. At the same time, the athlete is losing salt by sweating. Consequently, the amount of salt available to the body tissues decreases over time to a point where the loss interferes with brain, heart, and muscle function.

The official name for this condition is hyponatremia. The symptoms generally mirror those of dehydration (apathy, confusion, nausea, and fatigue), although some individuals show no symptoms at all. If untreated, hyponatremia can lead to coma and even death.

Enough, but not too much. The fluid requirement for the majority of endurance athletes, under most conditions, is about 8 to 16 ounces per hour. There is considerable variation here, of course, due to individual sweating rates, body size and weight, heat and humidity, and running speed, and other factors. Still, much more than this amount of fluid is, in most instances, probably physiologically excessive as well as uncomfortable, as liquid sloshes around in the gut during the activity.


It is now thought people should follow the dictates of thirst and not to exceed 1-1.5 quarts per hour
http://healthfactsandfears.com/featured_articles/jul2003/water072403.html

1 liter = 4.22675282 US cups
1 US gallon = 3.7854118 liters
1 US cup = 8 US fluid ounces
1 US quart = 4 US cups
1 US gallon = 4 US quarts

4-6 cups, or 32-48oz per hour is close to the limit

and 42 cups, 336oz, 2.65 gallons is around the safe daily intake limit, although its considered VERY high and beyond overkill

[dblockspky]

I had saw that article yesterday. That's pretty unbelievable. I was never aware you could drink too much water. I guess in essence you can't because a normal person would have went to the bathroom. It's even worse because the woman was doing it for her family. That must be a horrible feeling for her kids

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

If you drink too much in a very short period of time, you can die, yes. A "Water Drinking Contest" is the stupidest and most ignorant thing I've ever heard of. Some people on here drink a gallon or more every day, but it's fine because they drink it throughout the day, not all at once. A college kid wanted to join a frat and he too died from doing a stupid test where he had to drink a gallon of water in a very short period of time. =\

[ArchAngel777]

I smell a lawsuit... :D

[geoffgarcia]

I had saw that article yesterday. That's pretty unbelievable. I was never aware you could drink too much water. I guess in essence you can't because a normal person would have went to the bathroom. she didn't die because she didn't go to the bathroom, she probably died because she drank to much and it diluted the water balance in her system

[jamrock]

Did she win the Wii?

[DGabe24]

Did she win the Wii?

Have you no compassion?

[BostonBull]

I have heard of this before. If you drink too much water in a short period of time it dillutes the salt in your system, and it also drains vital fluids and minerals out of your organs and "drowns" them. Their is also a group of weirdos out there who will drink water till the verge of death, right before the point of death is supposedly an unbelievable high that lasts a few minutes.

I work outiside all year in the really hot summer days the boss insists we drink gatorade, or take salt tablets with our water to prevent anything like this happening. Theres quite the few days in the summer when we drink 3 or more gallons in a ten hour day.

[Avatar4321]

I had saw that article yesterday. That's pretty unbelievable. I was never aware you could drink too much water. I guess in essence you can't because a normal person would have went to the bathroom. It's even worse because the woman was doing it for her family. That must be a horrible feeling for her kids

most people arent aware because its so unusual.

[jamrock]

Have you no compassion?

Me? There is nothing that can be done about this, that whole state is destined to die.

Think of it, why didn't anyone call in and mention the possibility of water intoxication? I would have.

The least the station can do is offer her family consolation prizes, it will be the appetizer before the law-suit check arrives.

/I fark
//Pardon my arrogance.

[nzk]

I have heard of this before. If you drink too much water in a short period of time it dillutes the salt in your system, and it also drains vital fluids and minerals out of your organs and "drowns" them. Their is also a group of weirdos out there who will drink water till the verge of death, right before the point of death is supposedly an unbelievable high that lasts a few minutes..

there is so much misinformation about hyponatremia out there...
drinking large amounts of water faster than your kidneys can get rid of it lowers the sodium concentration in the blood, this leads to the movement of fluid from the blood to the tissues causing them to swell. this is most detremental in the brain where its encased inside a rigid skull, as the brain swells, the tissue is compressed, blood flow is reduced, this leads to initially headaches (which the story describes) blurry vision, high blood pressure, eventually coma and respiratory failure or aspiration and then death.

there is no draining of vital fluids and minerals, no drowning, and no high, ive seen many people with life threatening hyponatremia and its not a pleasant experience.

this is different from working in the sun all day and drinking gallons of water. kidneys are very smart little organs, they can really hold on to 99% of the salt while getting rid of excess water. the problem of course is salt lost while sweating, and this why its recommended to drink water with a touch of salt, ideally a 0.9% salt/water mix. you are basically replacing what you lose in sweat and airway moisture, along with the basal requirement of water for basic biochemical functions.

[jamrock]

there is so much misinformation about hyponatremia out there...
drinking large amounts of water faster than your kidneys can get rid of it lowers the sodium concentration in the blood, this leads to the movement of fluid from the blood to the tissues causing them to swell. this is most detremental in the brain where its encased inside a rigid skull, as the brain swells, the tissue is compressed, blood flow is reduced, this leads to initially headaches (which the story describes) blurry vision, high blood pressure, eventually coma and respiratory failure or aspiration and then death.

there is no draining of vital fluids and minerals, no drowning, and no high, ive seen many people with life threatening hyponatremia and its not a pleasant experience.

this is different from working in the sun all day and drinking gallons of water. kidneys are very smart little organs, they can really hold on to 99% of the salt while getting rid of excess water. the problem of course is salt lost while sweating, and this why its recommended to drink water with a touch of salt, ideally a 0.9% salt/water mix. you are basically replacing what you lose in sweat and airway moisture, along with the basal requirement of water for basic biochemical functions.

Do you have links to this information? I'm not denying, in fact its the most accurate ive heard it explained.. I just have some people I want to educate.

[BostonBull]

Thanks fr clearing that up. I would like to see links also. I am not doubting you. I got this information last year from a 60 minutes report about young kids drinking water to chase that high, and going too far and dieing.

[snow]

I had the misfortune of drinking too much water. I was lifting and was pounding the liquid within a time period of about an hour. A little later I started to see green spots that began to encompass my whole range of vision and I started to feel outside of myself, as if I was high. It was quite scary. The doctor told me there is a fine balance between sodium and water in your body, which apparently regulates some major organs. When you are sweating and sweating, as well as drinking excess amounts of water, you're throwing that balance off.

[miken5254]

I smell a lawsuit... :D

According to the article the contest-holders gave them a warning.


What a stupid way to die.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

If the contest holders knew the risk they shouldn't have held the contest. That is asinine.

[irish_dec]

it is indeed a daft way to die, but to be honest im sure i would have given it a go myself, being ignorant to the fact that too much water can cause death!

[PhilsterT]

What happens to the bladder at the point? Does it just not register the water intake and decide not to piss it out? And, if you are taking salt tablets how much water can you drink?

[Cirino83]

Water drinking contest is as intelligent as a whiskey chugging contest.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

^^

Except your body will probably black out before you get alcohol poisoning.

[Levantar]

If the contest holders knew the risk they shouldn't have held the contest. That is asinine.

Maybe you should explain that to people who hold the following contests (for example). Motorcycle racing, Car racing, some X-games events, Food eating contests ect.

Maybe adults should be smart enough to make up their own minds after hearing about the risks involved?

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

You can die doing a lot of things. I suppose you could just never go outside as well. I don't think their warning was "You may die during this contest...good luck!" I'd like to see what their warning was.



Maybe adults should be smart enough to make up their own minds after hearing about the risks involved?Never underestimate human stupidity. :)

[FireRescue]

Think of it, why didn't anyone call in and mention the possibility of water intoxication? I would have./Pardon my arrogance.

There were several calls but the disk jockey's blew it off believing that you would puke the water up before you died.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

^^

Then they should be held accountable. That is ridiculous.

[nzk]

Thanks fr clearing that up. I would like to see links also. I am not doubting you. I got this information last year from a 60 minutes report about young kids drinking water to chase that high, and going too far and dieing.

actually im a physician so i guess my source is medical text, but any reputable online website will go into further detail...just search for hyponatremia and water intoxication.

where the contest holders went wrong was when they went from 8 oz bottles every 15 minutes to bigger bottles more frequently. its not about how much water you drink, its how fast you drink it. the bladder has nothing to do with the elimination of water, its just a reservoir for the urine made by the kidneys. the kidneys have a limit to how much they can excrete, once this is overcome, detrimental changes occur. im sure the contestants signed a waiver though, otherwise it would be a slam dunk reckless endangerment case.

[Levantar]

You can die doing a lot of things. I suppose you could just never go outside as well. I don't think their warning was "You may die during this contest...good luck!" I'd like to see what their warning was.


Never underestimate human stupidity. :)

Your right about that.

[Chris686]

I know this is going to sound bad... But did they at least give her family the Wii?

[FireRescue]

^^

Then they should be held accountable. That is ridiculous.

Last I knew 10 people at the station have lost their jobs. I'm sure a lawsuit is already in the works.

[Hatred]

OK. I heard this on the radio when they were announcing the contest....it's creating a HUGE stink. I listened to the show every morning on the way to work...home of such bits as
"Bad news read over happy music"...****ing hysterical..


http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/13/water.intox.ap/index.html


I was preparing to say "I don't think they should have been fired "at the bank. I asked the teller: " did you hear aboyut that woman who died from the radio contest?"
"yeah", That was her sister in law"..(points to woman 8 feet from me...)


ewwww...akward...."horrible huh?" :rolleyes:

[sharkall2003]

Ha. Ha. Ha. I guess it's kinda funny, but in a very humor personality dependent kind of way. Some people will do anything to get some of this crap. What are the odds of getting water poisoning? Don't you have to drink like eight gallons of water or something like that in a day.

[Jeremy Ray]

Just because a lady is ignorant doesn't mean she deserves that. The DJ's knew better, joked about the possible death issue, and they had a caller call in warning them.

The lady was trying to get a Wii for her kids. Now her kids have no mom. Messed up story.

[sharkall2003]

The woman drank the water by her own will and they didn't force it upon her. If she knowingly drank the water with the intent of doing whatever it took then why should someone else be held accountable? People should be held responsible for their actions. The DJ's didn't do anything except say that whoever drinks the most water wins. It's up to the contestants to draw the line when they will do bodily harm.

[MrWebb78]

Ha. Ha. Ha. I guess it's kinda funny, but in a very humor personality dependent kind of way. Some people will do anything to get some of this crap. What are the odds of getting water poisoning? Don't you have to drink like eight gallons of water or something like that in a day.

or 2 gallons in less than 3 hours.

[MrWebb78]

Did she win the Wii?

no, she was 2nd place.

[MrWebb78]

Last I knew 10 people at the station have lost their jobs. I'm sure a lawsuit is already in the works.

it's really sad that a lawsuit will be in the works too. they will try to sue for negligence, when really it is the participants ignorance that caused the death.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

The woman drank the water by her own will and they didn't force it upon her. If she knowingly drank the water with the intent of doing whatever it took then why should someone else be held accountable? People should be held responsible for their actions. The DJ's didn't do anything except say that whoever drinks the most water wins. It's up to the contestants to draw the line when they will do bodily harm.It's up to the contestants if they have no idea what drinking too much water will do? How is it their fault that the contest holders shrugged off all the warnings? Most people I talk to don't know anything about water intoxication. Yes, people can be held accountable for their own actions, but not when their actions are influenced by a contest for something they want, with very important warnings witheld by the contest holders because they just didn't care or thought the other people telling them these things were wrong. It's really silly.

[razorcut]

Don't you have to drink like eight gallons of water or something like that in a day.Evidently not.

[kkwik1212]

All for a $300 Wii, how stupid.

[kkwik1212]

^^

Then they should be held accountable. That is ridiculous.

The DJ were obviously idiots, but they shouldn't be held accountable. She was an adult and should know better than to jeopardize her life for a $300 Wii.

[MrWebb78]

It's up to the contestants if they have no idea what drinking too much water will do? How is it their fault that the contest holders shrugged off all the warnings? Most people I talk to don't know anything about water intoxication. Yes, people can be held accountable for their own actions, but not when their actions are influenced by a contest for something they want, with very important warnings witheld by the contest holders because they just didn't care or thought the other people telling them these things were wrong. It's really silly.

they signed consent forms that acknowledged the dangers involved in the contest.

during the program a nurse called the station(on air) and said they were all being ridiculous and need to be careful.

ALL warnings were ignored by the station AND the participants. so the argument of "they just didn't know it could be bad for them" doesn't really have merit here.

[Blood&Iron]

It's almost painful to listen...and yet I can't help but laugh. Audio clip here (http://www.sacbee.com/static/newsroom/kdndslides/)



Woman: Can't you get water poisoning and like die?
DJ: Your body is 98% water. Why can't you take in as much water as you want?
...
Woman: Maybe we should have researched this before?
...
DJ: If it gets dangerous for somebody, their body will automatically throw it up.
...
Caller to radio station: Those people that are drinking all that water can get sick and possibly die from water intoxication.
DJ: We're aware of that. They signed releases, so we're not responsible.
...
DJ: *laughs* Carter, is anybody dying in there? *laughs*

[FireRescue]

I would not be surprised in the least bit if the womans family gets compensated for her death buy the station.

I believe the courts findings will be that the ORPMAN (ordinary, reasonable, and prudent person) could not be expected to know the possible dangers of water intoxication and the type of events (how much water over how much time) that would lead to water intoxication. I don't know these things and I would like to consider myself somewhat intelligent :D

As far as the waivers signed and the callers to the station saying how dangerous this was, it is tough to comment on how much of an impact these will have on the lawsuit without reading and hearing the comments. Do we know what the waivers said?

Also I feel the creditability of the callers comments to the station will be in question because who really knows if the callers are who they say they are. Are they experts? Are they average Joe's just trying to be *******s to some of the contestants will drop out and their buddy can win. I don't think this will have a great impact on the case. These were equally dismissed by the station and contestants. I'm guessing this will not be an arguable point for either side.

I believe that the court will hold the contest holders liable for failing to reasonably determine the possible dangers of the contest they held and for failing to inform their contestants of these dangers.

This is just my take on what I have read about the situation. Sorry to be so long winded.

[Blood&Iron]

OK. I heard this on the radio when they were announcing the contest....it's creating a HUGE stink. I listened to the show every morning on the way to work...home of such bits as
"Bad news read over happy music"...****ing hysterical..


http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/13/water.intox.ap/index.html


I was preparing to say "I don't think they should have been fired "at the bank. I asked the teller: " did you hear aboyut that woman who died from the radio contest?"
"yeah", That was her sister in law"..(points to woman 8 feet from me...)


ewwww...akward...."horrible huh?" :rolleyes:
I posted a link to the audio clip of the show in the other thread on this. It's pretty painful to listen to.

[Beast]

DJ: *laughs* Carter, is anybody dying in there? *laughs*
You forgot the response: "We got a guy who's just about to die, hahahaha!"

[robinhood]

Seriously though, did she win the Wii?

[D Breyer]

What a terrible situation... That DJ has to feel pretty ****ty.

[MrWebb78]

for the third time, no she didn't win. she came in 2nd.

also, this station is owned by Entercom. they will settle out of court.

[Beast]

What a terrible situation... That DJ has to feel pretty ****ty.
You can't expect much from a guy who says that your body is 98% water.

[_8_Ball]

It's a 50/50... if your doing this and 2 callers tell you that what your doing is dangerous, most ppl would stop.

At the same time the DJ should be sued and never be allowed to work on radio again as he is obviously to friggen stupid to even use common sense.

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