methyl masterdrol & liquid masterdrol

[GoHeavyOrGoHome]

Whats the dif between these 2? are they the same or what, do they have the same ingredients? thanks

[Paul Stagg]

It doesn't matter. At 14, you don't need them and shoudln't take them.

[GoHeavyOrGoHome]

na man. i wasnt asking. im 14
my sisters boyfriend wanted to know..hes 21..
i let him on my name to ask..
please put this back where it belongs for him
thanks

[The Champion]

Tell him this: Food and make sure he supplements with protein- most preferrably a whey-casein blend, creatine, and HARD WORK IN THE GYM

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

He doesn't need to supplement with anything if his diet is fine. And yes...diet and exercise will work wonders for him. Your sister's boyfriend doesn't need anything even remotely like this. He has a long way to go in reaching his potential. If he needs help gaining, he needs to get his diet in order. Maybe you could have him come on here and post his diet and training regimen. Maybe he should just sign up with his own name. He could learn a lot here.

[MadBigIam]

i worked out for quite some years now i kno how to train, and have takin stuff like halodrol 50 before, i just want to kno if their the same product.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Since you're going to ignore us anyway, just take it. If you knew how to train, you wouldn't be taking this crap.

[Davidelmo]

I've never heard of the liquid version, but methyl masterdrol.. that's just superdrol, right?

If so, I have heard of really good gains from it. It is still a very real oral steroid though and you shouldn't use it without the necessary ancillary supplements AND a REAL PCT.

If you're going to take it, you might as well do it properly and get the best results you can and not mess yourself up.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

You just love superdrol, don't you?

[Beast]

^^ A lot of people do.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

^^

I noticed.

[MadBigIam]

so are they the same thing or wut...looks like their dif ingredients to me so the liquid prob sucks

[Davidelmo]

You just love superdrol, don't you?

Never tried it, but there is definately enough feedback out there to suggest that it works. Just google "superdrol log" and read for yourself.

[Davidelmo]

so are they the same thing or wut...looks like their dif ingredients to me so the liquid prob sucks

Yeah, I'd say the methyl masterdrol is the real stuff, and the liquid masterdrol is just a rip-off.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Never tried it, but there is definately enough feedback out there to suggest that it works. Just google "superdrol log" and read for yourself.Feedback? As in what people say? As in not peer reviewed studies?

[SpecialK]

Feedback? As in what people say? As in not peer reviewed studies?

Do any steroids, illegal or otherwise, have peer reviewed studies that test their effectiveness in regards to building muscle in young, otherwise healthy males who follow a good diet and weight training program?

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Touché.

The lack thereof should also make people more careful with these things, however...but they aren't. A lot of people taking these things just shove the foreign substances blindly down their throat without any regards to side effects because the bottle told them they'd get HYoOOGe! Yeah...

[Beast]

Feedback? As in what people say? As in not peer reviewed studies?
^^^
Are you ****ing kidding?

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Get over it now and move on, please. Are you telling me you have never said anything wrong in your entire life? Are you perfect? Don't make a big deal over it. Seriously. OH NoezZz!! H3 SaiD teh STUFf!!!1 ICantz BELEEVv Itz!11

[Beast]

^^
Ok.

[Holto]

Do any steroids, illegal or otherwise, have peer reviewed studies that test their effectiveness in regards to building muscle in young, otherwise healthy males who follow a good diet and weight training program?

No but there are tons of studies on the steroids commonly prescribed by Dr's. For example testosteone enanthate has been demonstrated to be safe enough for Dr's to prescribe it.

We can't say the same about any of these over the counter products like methyl masterdrol or liquid masterdrol.

[SpecialK]

No but there are tons of studies on the steroids commonly prescribed by Dr's. For example testosteone enanthate has been demonstrated to be safe enough for Dr's to prescribe it.

We can't say the same about any of these over the counter products like methyl masterdrol or liquid masterdrol.

True, although after reading Legal Muscle, the legal consequences of using gear without a prescription make me more inclined to go with the legal compounds, even if they don't have peer-reviewed studies.

[Hatred]

Op has been Banned. SO. How is this thread relevant anymore?

[Cirino83]

Guess it's not.

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

True, although after reading Legal Muscle, the legal consequences of using gear without a prescription make me more inclined to go with the legal compounds, even if they don't have peer-reviewed studies.Pro-hormones have peer-reviewed studies...and the end result is not so pretty.

[SpecialK]

Pro-hormones have peer-reviewed studies...and the end result is not so pretty.

Do you have a link?

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

I'll find it later. It's bookmarked on my other computer. The result was basically that prohormones work a number on your liver, as well as other fun side effects, and with the minimal (or almost non-existent) "benefits" of prohormones, the negative side effects outweigh any possible benefit from taking them. So you might as well take the real thing. I don't think this pertains to banned substances as much, but there is no replacement for real gear.

[Davidelmo]

Superdrol is NOT a prohormone - it is a real active steroid.

There's no question of whether it "works" or not. The side effects are stronger than some compounds including some "real" substances, but it definately does help in adding strength and size.

Yes scarz you are right that you will have extra liver activity when using a 17aa steroid like SD but I think it is definately over-rated. Don't forget that these compounds are run for a maximum of 3 weeks, and anyone who knows what they are doing will run ancillaries and PCT to minimise damage. I've seen blood results from SD users (and in fact a lot of steroid users) and they often have high liver enzymes but they go back to normal shortly after. In my opinion, being a regular drinker is far worse for your liver than a 3 week oral cycle.

I would weigh it up like this:

Pros:
It is legal - very important for a lot of people who can't risk being caught
Easily attainable - you can still get it almost anywhere
Reliable - in that you are buying an actual branded product and not some anonymous liquid or pills from a foreign country via that guy in your gym.
Cheap - much less expensive than the "real" thing

Cons:
Only run for 3 weeks so less potential for long-term gains and less time to solidify gains.
Strength gains are very rapid and so you have to be careful about injuries
Oral only cycle

[sCaRz*Of*PaiN]

Superdrol is NOT a prohormone - it is a real active steroid.I know.


It is legal - very important for a lot of people who can't risk being caughtI thought it was banned. :scratch:

[SpecialK]

I know.


I thought it was banned. :scratch:

The original was pulled off the market because the FDA found out and threatened to ban it, but there are several clones out there now selling under different names.

[Roddy]

^^^ i know of a store that has this stuff on their shelf as well as M-1-P.

[Davidelmo]

I know.


I thought it was banned. :scratch:

JUst you were saying that you had read articles on pro-hormones. I was just pointing out that Superdrol isn't one of them.

It might be banned but it's still very available. Even if you can't find the original Anabolix Xtreme or Designer Supplements versions, there are loads of clones out there. I'm sure the powder is all made in the same factory in China anyway, lol.

[SpecialK]

I'll find it later. It's bookmarked on my other computer. The result was basically that prohormones work a number on your liver, as well as other fun side effects, and with the minimal (or almost non-existent) "benefits" of prohormones, the negative side effects outweigh any possible benefit from taking them. So you might as well take the real thing. I don't think this pertains to banned substances as much, but there is no replacement for real gear.

Oh yeah, I'd still be interested in reading that study if you find it.

[Roddy]

^^^ same here. Post a link.

I might want to try this stuff... and that info you have would be beneficial in me making a decision!