Whey dosage

[Big Jay]

this sounds like a real newbie question, but; til recently i've just been using meal replacements shakes, but i went and bought sum Met-Rx supreme whey. unlike anythin i've ever took before, it doesn't mention anything on dosage... so how exactly should i be takin it... like pre then post workout?

[Unholy]

Whey = food. If you don't get enough protein from diet then you eat it to meet your protein requirements.

[Australian]

Sounds like you're trying to bulk up my friend. Time to get some knowledge. Read http://filexoom.com/files/19665/Bodybuilding_Nutrition/Ten_Commandments.pdf and everything you can find in this forum on nutrition and diet planning. If you're not already, you'll need to start tracking your food at www.fitday.com
To answer your question in quick and inaccurate newbie form:
Daily requirement of protein = 0.8 to 1.8 grams of protein per pound of body weight, provided you're not obese. If you're obese aim for the lower number. A heaped teaspoon of flour is 6 grams. Your protein powder is probably about 90% protein. I'm sure you can figure out the rest :)

[Big Jay]

thanks guys... my diets good... just wanted to make sure that there was no problem in maybe takin it 2 or 3 times a day dependin on my schedule

[Unholy]

thanks guys... my diets good... just wanted to make sure that there was no problem in maybe takin it 2 or 3 times a day dependin on my schedule

No problem at all mate. its just food =)

[Australian]

thanks guys... my diets good... just wanted to make sure that there was no problem in maybe takin it 2 or 3 times a day dependin on my scheduleProtein is a part of but not the only attribute to putting on muscle. The amount of calories you consume in a day (along with other lifestyle factors) determines how much weight someone can put on, or whether their work at the gym is useless and will develop no muscle. You need to count calories if you want to build muscle and maintain/lose/gain weight in general. If you don't know how much protein to eat I doubt you've addressed your diet properly yet, but that's your call. If you want real results then listen to me. Start a fitday account. Body builders eat a source of complete protein every three hours. That's more than 3 times a day. It's a good idea to eat 6 meals a day because it speeds up your metabolism. It's a good idea to walk a lot. It's a great idea to eat beans and rice a lot.No problem at all mate.Unholy - you must be a Aussie.

[Mad Martigan]

Sounds like you're trying to bulk up my friend. Time to get some knowledge. Read http://filexoom.com/files/19665/Bodybuilding_Nutrition/Ten_Commandments.pdf and everything you can find in this forum on nutrition and diet planning. If you're not already, you'll need to start tracking your food at www.fitday.com
To answer your question in quick and inaccurate newbie form:
Daily requirement of protein = 0.8 to 1.8 grams of protein per pound of body weight, provided you're not obese. If you're obese aim for the lower number. A heaped teaspoon of flour is 6 grams. Your protein powder is probably about 90% protein. I'm sure you can figure out the rest :)

Just a point of order, flour is WAY denser than protein powders. Think about the size of a 5lb sack of flour and a 5lb tub of whey powder.

[Unholy]

Unholy - you must be a Aussie.


Polish, but many many Aussie friends :ninja:

[Slim Schaedle]

It's a good idea to eat 6 meals a day because it speeds up your metabolism. .

Someone's eventually going to call you out on this, so I may as well do it now.


Gonna have to back that up bro.


That statement parallels the upper chest claims and discussions we've been through so many other times on here.

[Holto]

It's a good idea to eat 6 meals a day because it speeds up your metabolism.

Many trainers and nutritionists believe this to be true but some relatively recent research has shown this to be a myth.

There are several studies here:

http://wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=66713&highlight=meal+frequency

There have been a hand full of studies conducted any they all arrived at the same conclusion.

The human body has adapted to survive. Increasing metabolism would make it more difficult to stay alive in a world where food does not come from a grocery store. Since an abundance of food does not challenge our ability to survive we will never adapt to it. In other words our bodies are still convinced that food is scarce and won't be changing this any time soon.

[Australian]

So it's impossible to increase the individual's metabolic rate through planned meal frequency? Confirm this for me please. :) I need to KNOW for sure.

[Mad Martigan]

Someone's eventually going to call you out on this, so I may as well do it now.


Gonna have to back that up bro.


That statement parallels the upper chest claims and discussions we've been through so many other times on here.


The only thing I know it does is make me crap all day. You may consider this confirmed, Aussie. :clown:

[Australian]

Right, so if we crap all day then our metabolism is faster. Right? ...and a faster metabolic rate is beneficial for muscle growth I believe? Stop me when I'm wrong...

[ValleyFR]

australian, thank you. I just picked up that mass guide you put up.

[Mad Martigan]

Right, so if we crap all day then our metabolism is faster. Right? ...and a faster metabolic rate is beneficial for muscle growth I believe? Stop me when I'm wrong...

No. Crapping all day does not mean your metabolic rate is faster. It means you have your intestines filled from one end to the other instead of having bolusesque intestinal activity.

[Australian]

Always a pleasure :) and for the masses here it is:

http://filexoom.com/files/19665/Bodybuilding_Nutrition/Ten_Commandments.pdf

It's about gaining mass. It's a good article.

Anyway, I think I have just solved the advantage of having a more regular diet. A test study's stomach (and everyone's is different by nature) showed us that protein absorption is a slow process, and if there is too much at one time it will pass. THERE is the advantage of 6 hits of protein a day. I can't remember which article. Pubmed I think... hmm

[the doc]

i agree that the studies presented by bradley (in the linked thread) have shown there really is no significant metabolic gain by frequent meals... however, out of sheer personal preference i do prefer eat 4-5 meals (includes snacks) just to limit bloating and general intestinal discomfort.

and yes ****ting all day would increase your metabolism slightly, but hardly to any significant extent. fitday will estimate your average GI metabolism at about 250 kcal/day... you might be able to boost it to what maybe 275?

oh and aussie that article is a fairly good general guide on mass building
basicly centered on big lifting and big eating

[Australian]

oh and aussie that article is a fairly good general guide on mass building basicly centered on big lifting and big eatingYou got other techniques?

[the doc]

:scratch:

well yes dont forget lots of isolation exercises with pink dumbbells

[Built]

:scratch:

well yes dont forget lots of isolation exercises with pink dumbbells

<makes mental note to test max kickback next Friday ...>

[Slim Schaedle]

Makes mental note to add those techniques to his GWD.

[Holto]

So it's impossible to increase the individual's metabolic rate through planned meal frequency? Confirm this for me please. :) I need to KNOW for sure.

I posted a link to several clinical studies that confirm that it is indeed a myth. Please read them.

[Australian]

Roger that Chief. Saludos.

[Holto]

Sorry if I sounded annoyed. I just didn't get you wanting confirmation after I posted hard clinical data for you to "confirm" this with.

[Clayton South]

this sounds like a real newbie question, but; til recently i've just been using meal replacements shakes, but i went and bought sum Met-Rx supreme whey. unlike anythin i've ever took before, it doesn't mention anything on dosage... so how exactly should i be takin it... like pre then post workout?

Whey protein is best used pre and post workout when your body needs amino acids rather quickly. You can also use it in between meals, but milk proteins are more suitable for this and give you better anti-catabolic effects because of extended amino acid delivery.

-Clayton South
Industry Writer
ISSA Certified Specialist in Performance Nutrition