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Stumprrp
03-22-2007, 09:45 AM
Hey guys,

Right now i train all RAW except for a belt and im doing these next 2 meets (one USPF sunday, RAW meet in june) raw, however i relized i soon want to use gear, seeing how much weight guys are getting its really tempting me, i could set alot of records in the teenage class of powerlifting i think with gear.

How much could i expect after practice out of a 1 ply shirt for bench? a suit wraps and belt with squats?

my max squat is close to 500 lbs and i think with gear and practice i could hit 600+, my upper end on squats is really strong.

just want some opinions, ive always wanted to be raw but hey i want to win championships here.

-rob

Sleepy Guy
03-22-2007, 10:33 AM
The word was any where for 5% to 20% and of course there are exceptions.

It can take a while to get use too as well.

Hazerboy
03-22-2007, 10:54 AM
Hah, at first I thought you were talking about roids. :-p

WillKuenzel
03-22-2007, 10:58 AM
The word was any where for 5% to 20% and of course there are exceptions.

It can take a while to get use too as well.
Pretty much.

If you do get a suit and/or shirt, find someone experienced to help you in it and with it. A suit/shirt will change the dynamics of the lift and what you have to concentrate on and work on. Your weak points raw might not be your weak points equipped, or it could totally exploit your raw weak points and decrease your lifts.

slither
03-22-2007, 11:03 AM
What is gear? I too thought it meant steriods? I was about to answer saying "acne" LOL

WillKuenzel
03-22-2007, 11:05 AM
Weightlifting gear = Equipment. A squat suit, a bench shirt, knee wraps.

TommyBoy
03-22-2007, 11:06 AM
There's no answer I can give you that ends in lbs. or %. All I can say is that it will keep you tight, make you feel safer, make you feel more confident, and help you train harder and heavier.

Gear + your animal instinct = An even freakier Stump than we already know.

Mik
03-22-2007, 11:08 AM
What is gear? I too thought it meant steriods? I was about to answer saying "acne" LOL


Slither, you may want to check out this thread to answer your questions.

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=75458

Sleepy Guy
03-22-2007, 11:15 AM
Slither, you may want to check out this thread to answer your questions.

http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=75458

Gear is what guy have going on up front. For girls it is often referred to junk in the trunk. :scratch:

If your competing I would make sure to give yourself time to learn the suite. Like oly lift some people take time to get use to it.

Sensei
03-22-2007, 12:48 PM
With training and good upper-end single-ply gear, you could add 100+lbs to your squat and 100+ to your BP. But, it really depends on the person, where their weaknesses and strengths are, and how much practice they are willing and able to commit to learning and improving their lifts w. the equipment..

Mik
03-22-2007, 12:48 PM
Good luck on the comp Rob btw!

Stumprrp
03-22-2007, 02:40 PM
thanks for the advice guys, thx mik.

my weak point on bench well if i do stick its about 3-4 inches off the chest, and squats probley the bottom.

Guido
03-22-2007, 02:44 PM
If you are good at using the gear, and it's of the proper tightness for you, you can easily get 100+ on your bench out of a shirt and 120+ out of a squat suit and knee wraps. If you're REALLY good and are using the right equipment, you can get 200+ out of a bench shirt and 250+ out of a squat suit. A DL suit will maybe give you 10-30 lbs, depending on tightness and your style. Equipment just doesn't do as much for DL.

Stumprrp
03-22-2007, 03:19 PM
yeah ive heard G man thats why most guys squats are so much higher then there DL probably.

im deffinatly going to consider it, imma keep doin what im doin and get my raw numbers up still as i go to the 242's (fatty) and see.

Sidior
03-22-2007, 03:20 PM
If you are good at using the gear, and it's of the proper tightness for you, you can easily get 100+ on your bench out of a shirt and 120+ out of a squat suit and knee wraps. If you're REALLY good and are using the right equipment, you can get 200+ out of a bench shirt and 250+ out of a squat suit. A DL suit will maybe give you 10-30 lbs, depending on tightness and your style. Equipment just doesn't do as much for DL.

I have heard if you pull sumo you can get much more out of your gear. Anywhere in the range of 30-50+lbs. 10-30lbs sounds about right for conventional though.

slither
03-26-2007, 10:28 PM
Sorry for the dumb q, but will using gear help build muscles faster since more weight is used or will it actually hender gains? Speaking only of size.

MIK, thanks for the link man, tought me a LOT

Bohizzle
03-26-2007, 10:37 PM
some will grow more, others not so much.

Chris Rodgers
03-27-2007, 03:54 PM
If you put on a suit and wraps and couldn't squat over 600, then you need to find some powerlifters and train with them. You should bench over 400 too. The biggest problem with the gear is it usually isn't smart/safe to use it by yourself. It makes the lifts even more technical and difficult. Always have proper spotters and try and lift with some experienced powerlifters. You are a moose and with proper teaching could hit a monsterous total.

Guido
03-27-2007, 03:58 PM
:withstupi

Deadlifter
03-27-2007, 06:56 PM
I don't know too much about gear, but here is Kara Bohigian, a 148 pound woman squatting 551 pounds in gear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH7-JeDEdLU

Stumprrp
03-27-2007, 10:16 PM
If you put on a suit and wraps and couldn't squat over 600, then you need to find some powerlifters and train with them. You should bench over 400 too. The biggest problem with the gear is it usually isn't smart/safe to use it by yourself. It makes the lifts even more technical and difficult. Always have proper spotters and try and lift with some experienced powerlifters. You are a moose and with proper teaching could hit a monsterous total.

deffinatly im going to be joining a gym where alot of RI's top powerlifters train, if i start training with a shirt and get stronger with a shirt, will my raw still benefit somewhat? same for squat suit.

Nik00117
03-27-2007, 11:28 PM
I can't speak for suits etc.

However I can tell you when I got my belt on and off. When i got my belt off I squat erm maybe 5-10% less. When i got it on i'm at 5-10% more. Its a difference for sure.

I believe also my belt provides a mental aid as in i'm thinking I got this belt it'll help me do more when in fact its actually doing very little i'm just pushing harder.

Some times sugar pills (forgot the name) can do wonders, just because you believe they are helping.

Roddy
03-28-2007, 12:38 AM
hey did you know you have over 9000 posts.

Stumprrp
03-28-2007, 04:56 AM
belts do help like hell ill give u that

roddy - i do? hmm, wow, i have no life.

Mik
03-28-2007, 07:25 AM
I don't know too much about gear, but here is Kara Bohigian, a 148 pound woman squatting 551 pounds in gear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH7-JeDEdLU

Wow! That lookeds wayyyyyyyy to easy.

Mik
03-28-2007, 08:02 AM
The biggest problem with the gear is it usually isn't smart/safe to use it by yourself. It makes the lifts even more technical and difficult. Always have proper spotters and try and lift with some experienced powerlifters.

So someone who lifts on their own shouldn't consider using gear?

Guido
03-28-2007, 08:55 AM
So someone who lifts on their own shouldn't consider using gear?Maybe for deadlift, but definitely not for squat or bench.

vdizenzo
03-28-2007, 09:01 AM
So someone who lifts on their own shouldn't consider using gear?

It's ok as long as you are training in a power rack with safety pins.

Mik
03-28-2007, 10:31 AM
It's ok as long as you are training in a power rack with safety pins.


That's kind of what I thought.

Stumprrp
03-28-2007, 10:37 AM
sounds resonable, but you need someone to help get it on correct? i would still think partners are needed.

Mik
03-28-2007, 10:38 AM
sounds resonable, but you need someone to help get it on correct? i would still think partners are needed.

That was my concern. I figured being in a rack would be fine for safety purposes but getting in and out of the suit might be another issue altogether.

Chris Rodgers
03-28-2007, 03:31 PM
Let's just say it makes it a lot safer with training partners and when learning gear having people to watch you and give you tips is huuuuuge!

Mik
03-29-2007, 07:44 AM
Let's just say it makes it a lot safer with training partners and when learning gear having people to watch you and give you tips is huuuuuge!


Then move to Canada and train me damnit!

Guido
03-29-2007, 10:13 AM
Let's just say it makes it a lot safer with training partners and when learning gear having people to watch you and give you tips is huuuuuge!Definitely. And you will need people to help you get a bench shirt on properly. You just can't do it yourself.

Chris Rodgers
03-29-2007, 08:34 PM
Then move to Canada and train me damnit!


Move to Canada? Pfft....I'd sooner move to Mexico, lol. :hide:

TommyBoy
03-29-2007, 09:54 PM
Move to Canada? Pfft....I'd sooner move to Mexico, lol. :hide:
Oh...dude....that's a low blow.:mad:

Mik
03-30-2007, 07:37 AM
Move to Canada? Pfft....I'd sooner move to Mexico, lol. :hide:


That's it! No maple syrup for you.

*takes off on dog sled*

TommyBoy
03-30-2007, 02:13 PM
Move to Canada? Pfft....I'd sooner move to Mexico, lol. :hide:
What a hoser, eh?

Guido
03-30-2007, 03:32 PM
What a hoser, eh?...he says with floppy head and beady eyes. :D