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cooldude_1981
04-16-2007, 10:24 AM
Hey guys i have been researching lately for a cutting cycle. I have never used AAS before. I researched some compounds for my cycle and made a cycle. Is it good cycle with my training and diet to lose fat and preserve muscle? Please advise if i should consider some other compound as well with reasons?

Male - 25 yrs
Training - 3 years(done few successful cutting and bulking cycles before)
Weight - 198 pounds
Bodyfat - 14-15%
Goal - Reach 7-8% bodyfat and look good.

My cycle
Weeks 1 - 8
Testoviron depot 250 - One shot per week :strong:
Finpecia - 1m ED
Arimidex - .25 EOD
Nizoral Shampoo - 3 times a week
Ephedrine / Caffeine - 20/200 Two times a day

Weeks 4 - 8
Synthroid 50-200-50 :soapbox:

Weeks 10 - 15
HCG 2500 - 2000 - 1500 - 1000 IU Every 4 days
Vitamin E 1000 IU
Nolvadex - 20 Mg / Clomid - 100 Mg :cry:
Nolvadex - 20 Mg / Clomid - 100 Mg
Nolvadex - 20 Mg / Clomid - 50 Mg
Nolvadex - 20 Mg / Clomid - 50 Mg
Nolvadex - 20 Mg
Nolvadex - 20 Mg

Beast
04-16-2007, 10:29 AM
Height?

cooldude_1981
04-16-2007, 06:58 PM
I am 5'10.5.

Paul Stagg
04-16-2007, 07:25 PM
Wait.

Holto
04-16-2007, 09:07 PM
Have you ever cut naturally?

cooldude_1981
04-16-2007, 09:17 PM
Yes mate i have and successfully. Have dieted down from 120kg - 72kg before naturally. Then bulked to 94kg. The thing is i got this new job which takes a lot of time during the week(72 hours). i barely get enough time to prepare food, rest and excercise. I just want to do it quickly(cutting) without losing muscle. i could benefit from better recuperation from test hence the decision. Iwould have still cut with steroids but i cant. I tried twice but got sick twice in six weeks. I cant afford to waste time. Hope you understand... Any suggestions people??

Unholy
04-16-2007, 09:27 PM
The thing is i got this new job which takes a lot of time during the week(72 hours). i barely get enough time to prepare food, rest and excercise. I just want to do it quickly(cutting) without losing muscle.

If you can't dedicate yourself to do it natty then I wouldn't run a cycle.

cooldude_1981
04-17-2007, 10:15 AM
Well Thanks for your help!!

Holto
04-17-2007, 10:40 AM
i barely get enough time to prepare food, rest and excercise.

Sounds like a terrible time in your life to run a cycle.

FighterInSnatch
04-17-2007, 12:53 PM
Sounds like a terrible time in your life to run a cycle.

Yeah do yourself a favor;do not run this cycle until you can concentrate 100% on the cycle and diet. Trust me.:hello:

Big J
04-17-2007, 04:57 PM
Normally I would try to help you as much as I could, but to be TOTALLY honest with you bro... you dont juice to LOSE weight. You take gear to add weight. I highly suggest you either cut first then cycle, or cycle first then cut... prolly the later of the two would be more efficient.

Gabrielle
04-18-2007, 11:23 AM
Get your crap together then evaluate whether you are ready.

cooldude_1981
04-18-2007, 06:38 PM
Whoa relax mate!!tuttut I think you guys are misunderstanding me. I am busy true. But get enough time to fit my workouts, diet and rest. I used the word barely because i have a very tight schedule. Ofcourse my social life is messed up while i am cutting but who cares. health is my priority. I am still gonna run cycle. Why?? I want to get lean. i want to recuperate faster after my workouts(Test). I don't want my metabolism to slow down which happens during dieting(T4) and i simply dont want to spend more time bulking again and then cutting again altering my metabolism. I want to diet harder while saving muscle in less time because my job demands a lot of energy(EC). i researched well about all the compunds i need to start the cycle. i am using moderate dosages enough to produce results. Hopefully you guys understand. I didn't made this decision beleiving that roids will cut me up with me eating and training the way i want. I know that i still have to train hard and eat according to a plan. I just posted if you experienced pro could throw some pointers. Well Thanks anyways and i will let you guys know how it all went after i am done with it.

Built
04-18-2007, 06:46 PM
I'm going to post up a bad idea. I want some really jacked, ripped guys to say "Oh sure, this will work great!". If I don't hear the replies I want, I'm going to do it this way anyway. I usually lose too much size when I cut naturally because I do it old-school: massive over-bulking on the see-food diet to bulk, and to cut, a nice, old-school high-rep cutting routines on super low-fats with WAAAAY too much cardio. As an added perk, I feel like garbage when I do this, so I figured I might as well take drugs instead of learning how to cut properly.

Good luck.

nickp16
04-18-2007, 06:53 PM
what is test e, exactly?

Built
04-18-2007, 06:57 PM
Testosterone enanthate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone)

cooldude_1981
04-18-2007, 07:18 PM
Originally Posted by cooldude_1981
I'm going to post up a bad idea. I want some really jacked, ripped guys to say "Oh sure, this will work great!". If I don't hear the replies I want, I'm going to do it this way anyway. I usually lose too much size when I cut naturally because I do it old-school: massive over-bulking on the see-food diet to bulk, and to cut, a nice, old-school high-rep cutting routines on super low-fats with WAAAAY too much cardio. As an added perk, I feel like garbage when I do this, so I figured I might as well take drugs instead of learning how to cut properly.

WTF?? LOL I never posted all that crap. Where did you get that from? And by the way i know how to cut naturally without losing mass. Please don't put **** up in the thread. I wonder what you learned after posting 15000+ posts. If you don't want to help don't post mate.

Built
04-18-2007, 07:22 PM
Hahahahahaha

WillKuenzel
04-19-2007, 06:55 AM
Don't ask questions if you don't want to hear the answers. You're asking for help but when we tell you that it won't work but you say you're going to do it anyway, prepare to get all the ***** you deserve. This isn't some boyscout retreat where we'll sit around telling campfire stories and group hugs. If you don't have your act together you shouldn't be doing it. Period.

You want the drugs to do all the work. What built quoted you as saying is pretty much what you are saying underneath all that other crap. You're flowering it up but essentially you're telling us that you don't have time to do it the right way and are looking for the easy way out. Piss on that. Don't ask for the advice if are going to do it anyway. Many of the experienced pros have told you what to do and some with more hectic lives than yours. You're not the only busy person in the world. *gasp*

This ain't a game and we take it seriously. If you don't want to and aren't willing to listen to the good advice you've been giving, you'll just have to deal with the consequences. We've told you what to do and to wait. It's your choice not to but don't think we didn't try to help.

Belial
04-19-2007, 01:01 PM
I know this thread is locked, but I did want to say one thing, since many of the previous posts were harsh.

Think about post-cycle, bud. Post-cycle recovery is tough under even ordinary circumstances. Your testosterone levels will be low, you'll have a hard time recovering from workouts, and your motivation will be lacking. Using a cycle to cut is not a bad idea at all, and your plan is fine. BUT! If you're going through a busy time in life, your post-cycle recovery will be AWFUL. Wait until your life settles down. Otherwise you'll get the effects you want, you'll be feeling great, feeling fine... but then once your cycle is done, and you're still busy, it will be a disaster.

Post cycle you need more sleep, more food, more time to recover, and less stress than you did pre-cycle. If you're struggling now, imagine what it will be like then. And imagine yourself adding fat, losing muscle, and losing motivation. You'll be far worse off than you are now, just a bit poorer for it.

People's posts may seem harsh, but we're trying to look out for you bro. Seriously.