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bradleykavin
04-24-2007, 12:57 AM
question..im 18...am i too young to be messing witht pheradrol (phera plex clone) ? ive never taken anything like it befor e(only taken creatine for 2 months thats it) and i just dont know if its worth all the side effects..i dont want to die early or have liver problems..i only plan on doing one cycle...can someone help me out?

Nosaj
04-24-2007, 02:31 AM
question..im 18...am i too young to be messing witht pheradrol (phera plex clone) ? ive never taken anything like it befor e(only taken creatine for 2 months thats it) and i just dont know if its worth all the side effects..i dont want to die early or have liver problems..i only plan on doing one cycle...can someone help me out?

Stick in school, and if you're posting for feedback, at least make your post moderately readable. Read the sticky, you've obviously done zero research. Wait until you've been lifting for 3 years WITH a good diet. (A good diet does not mean "Yea dewd, I ate a BK broiler & sum weight gainurz today, lewl!", I'm talk about an actual dialed in diet, 6 meals a day, eating in a calorie surplus. If you're going to run a cycle (after the first requirement is met), run what the first cycle sticky suggests. Don't be an idiot and run a cycle anyways, take some advice, learn how to get big naturally because if you can't do it without gear, you're nowhere near ready.

jAy_Dub
04-24-2007, 08:48 AM
Listen to Nosaj, he speaks the truth. Stay away from aas. Like you said, you wouldnt want to die early... :rolleyes:

bradleykavin
04-24-2007, 06:35 PM
I apologize for my grammer and punctuation on my post, i just was super tired when i posted. As far as lifting experience, i played football for 4 years so i consider myself knowledgeable when it comes to lifting. And through natural training i have gained tons of strength, over summer my bench went from 290-365 and squat 415-495. As far as eating habits, my diet lately has been good. And since i have started the cycle (yesterday) i have been drinking insaine amounts of water and eating a lage quantity of protien. My question is simply, am i hurting my body to the point of no return by taking these pills?

jAy_Dub
04-24-2007, 06:56 PM
I apologize for my grammer and punctuation on my post, i just was super tired when i posted. As far as lifting experience, i played football for 4 years so i consider myself knowledgeable when it comes to lifting. And through natural training i have gained tons of strength, over summer my bench went from 290-365 and squat 415-495. As far as eating habits, my diet lately has been good. And since i have started the cycle (yesterday) i have been drinking insaine amounts of water and eating a lage quantity of protien. My question is simply, am i hurting my body to the point of no return by taking these pills?

Why is it that so many ignorant people come in here and ask questions AFTER they start taking these drugs? Why does it matter now? You already made up your mind you're going to take them. You should of done your research on how these things affect your body way before you even consider starting them. I dont know much about pheradrol, other than its a prohormone, which is reason enough not to take it.

Beast
04-24-2007, 07:07 PM
over summer my bench went from 290-365 and squat 415-495.
These are some of the best gains I have ever heard of, and you claim to have achieved them naturally. Why in the hell would you start taking steroids?

Nosaj
04-24-2007, 07:09 PM
I apologize for my grammer and punctuation on my post, i just was super tired when i posted. As far as lifting experience, i played football for 4 years so i consider myself knowledgeable when it comes to lifting. And through natural training i have gained tons of strength, over summer my bench went from 290-365 and squat 415-495. As far as eating habits, my diet lately has been good. And since i have started the cycle (yesterday) i have been drinking insaine amounts of water and eating a lage quantity of protien. My question is simply, am i hurting my body to the point of no return by taking these pills?

Great, you're strong. I'm happy for you, seriously, that's quite an achievement. But you're also 18 and taking pro-hormones. So now you're a really strong dumbass. Stop your cycle, one day will not harm you. You don't need PCT, you just need to stop running this cycle. If you continue this cycle, you will likely stunt any future growth you might have, tax the hell out of your liver, and reap all the negative side effects of AAS use with nominal gains (yes, pro-hormones are a horrible choice for a first cycle, or any cycle imo). Wait three years, research AAS if it's something you want to continue in the future, and have all these questions answered BEFORE you decide to just take a drug that you have no idea of the consequences of. Seriously bro, it's like you stuck your wang inside your best friend and then you start asking your friends "Does this make me gay?"... uh, maybe you should have asked first before doing the deed.

bradleykavin
04-24-2007, 10:48 PM
alright i stopped the cycle. the reason i wanted to do prohormones caus i thought it would accelerate weight loss. and over summer when i had those gains i took a bottle of kre-alkylin. maybe ill just get some more of that...but my metabolism sucks dick, what do you guys recommend that will assist me in losing fat while gaining muscle? i guess i dont care about getting stronger really anymore, im just tired of being "the big guy".

bradleykavin
04-24-2007, 10:49 PM
i went and bought some 12 dollar protien powder at walmart also today. i figure i take 1 scoop before working out, and 1 after. good or no?

bradleykavin
04-24-2007, 11:04 PM
i also emailed the makers of the stuff, they said definitely too young..but recommended http://www.anabolicx.com/store/hd-4.html ?

cphafner
04-24-2007, 11:34 PM
Bradley, please go read the nutrition forum. Stay away from the prohoromes. You need to learn the basics of nutrition.

Davidelmo
04-25-2007, 01:09 AM
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.
Pheraplex is NOT a prohormone.


IT IS A STEROID. An oral steroid. Just because it is available over the counter and you take it orally does not mean it is a prohormone. It is a steroid, and no 18yr old should be taking steroids.

Nosaj
04-25-2007, 02:09 AM
It's good you stopped your cycle. Don't take any of those crap suppliments. The whey from walmart is a good step, but you're already a big, strong guy. You just need to dial in the basics of nutrition like Cphafner has recommended. Spend some quality time researching the in's and out's of diet. What, how, why, etc. Once you fully understand the basics and some of the more complex concepts, sky is the limit as far as gains go (assuming dedication, and with lifts like yours, should be attainable). Seriously though, read about diet. Do it, don't wait til' tomorrow, or mid-cycle, etc. Stop reading in this forum and start reading in the diet forum, ask questions, master your diet. There are tons of nutrition guru's on this site that can help you effectively achieve all of your goals in a reasonable amount of time, make the effort to learn about diet and apply it. You should be able to effectively cut to single digit bodyfat without losing much LBM and relatively minimal losses in strength if you do it right.

Hatred
04-25-2007, 11:10 AM
One more post out of you in here and consider yourself Banned. Read all you want. Don't attempt another User ID. Age a few years. Learn how to eat learn about nutrition. Learn how to lift and Learn How to post realistic lifts.
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