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1mmort4l
05-02-2007, 08:47 PM
I recently bought myself a shirt, and after some advice frome here, and reading some other posts etc.. i decided to go for the Inzer Extra High Performance HD Blast.
My shirt (http://www.houseofpain2.com/product-details.html?pid=678&scid=145&tsccat=145)
I gave my measurements, and i guess they custom made it. I added about half an inch to all the measurements given that i am a shirt newbie, and DAMN I'm glad i did. It takes me and a friend about 5 mins to put it on, which isn't too bad, and probably is as tight as it should be. Although, the pain it gives me at the back of my underarm is just not worth it.. It hurts a bit in most places, but its like someone wrenching my underarm hairs out with a pair of pliers!
I would just deal with this if it increased my bench dramatically, but its doesn't. I can only wear the shirt for 10 mins, then my arms start going funny colours and the pain behind my arm feels like i will need stitches..

Anyway, my raw max is about 315, and i can get the shirt to touch with 225. I benched 315 with the shirt, and it felt the same as 315 raw. I tried for 325 with the shirt, and couldn't get it!
I cant squeeze my shoulder blades together with the shirt, i think this may be a major cause, but surely it is the wrong cut for my body shape...??

Sorry for the long read, hopefully someone can give me some advice, maybe even a "Harden the **** up!" "We're all in eye watering pain!" but somehow it cant be normal..

Cheers guys..

Sensei
05-02-2007, 10:07 PM
I had an EHPHD and loved it. Assuming it's the right size, you might just not be wearing it right. Are you hiking up the sleeves? If you are, that's why it's not working.

Clifford Gillmore
05-03-2007, 05:11 AM
I've put on him and it sits well, the only things we havn't done are;

a) Twisting the sleeves
b) Having the palms up all the time
c) Getting him to set up with and underhand grip


Can you explain hiking up Sensei?

NASAKYCHAIRMAN
05-03-2007, 07:01 AM
The shirt is probably too big. Especially since you can touch 225 in the shirt. Also, 315 in a shirt shouldn't feel like a raw 315.


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Clifford Gillmore
05-03-2007, 07:35 AM
The shirt litterally cuts pretty nasty on him, right along the seams in the armpit. Any thoughts on how it should feel guys? We don't really have any other guys with equipment to talk too.

Darracq
05-03-2007, 11:41 AM
The blast is not a very good shirt , your not going to get much out of one.

Fitzg
05-03-2007, 05:18 PM
The blast blows. Go for a Titan fury for a first shirt, or maybe a metal (1 ply). Don't go w/Rage-X unless you have experience, patience, and a good workout partner/team. I had a fury, and with my arch could touch 275, at the time my raw was about 335lbs, and I got 405 with it. The blast is a glorified tshirt, hell you see dudes at the club wearing shirts that tight. good luck, and if you go titan, order from gopainclinic, Ken Anderson,or that little hottie Priscilla Ribic, you'll get much better service and a quick turnaround, as opposed to ordering from Titan, as your weight will probably go up a class, or you will die before they get you the shirt.

ddurkee
05-03-2007, 09:46 PM
unfortunately, the blast shirts are junk. poor performance + uncomfortable as hell. like piano wire pulled through your arm pit.

i don't subscribe to the beginner shirt theory. buy a good shirt and learn to use it. just don't get something insanely tight.

Chris Rodgers
05-03-2007, 09:49 PM
i don't subscribe to the beginner shirt theory. buy a good shirt and learn to use it. just don't get something insanely tight.




:withstupi

1mmort4l
05-03-2007, 11:39 PM
The shirt is probably too big. Especially since you can touch 225 in the shirt. Also, 315 in a shirt shouldn't feel like a raw 315.


Well, i did think this maybe the case, but the cuts are deep, and any tighter would likely result in a trip to the doc... :p


The shirt litterally cuts pretty nasty on him, right along the seams in the armpit. Any thoughts on how it should feel guys? We don't really have any other guys with equipment to talk too.

This is true.... :) :hello:


The blast is not a very good shirt , your not going to get much out of one.

Really? I have read some good reviews on them, whats your take on that?


The blast blows. Go for a Titan fury for a first shirt, or maybe a metal (1 ply). Don't go w/Rage-X unless you have experience, patience, and a good workout partner/team. I had a fury, and with my arch could touch 275, at the time my raw was about 335lbs, and I got 405 with it. The blast is a glorified tshirt, hell you see dudes at the club wearing shirts that tight. good luck, and if you go titan, order from gopainclinic, Ken Anderson,or that little hottie Priscilla Ribic, you'll get much better service and a quick turnaround, as opposed to ordering from Titan, as your weight will probably go up a class, or you will die before they get you the shirt.

Thats good info right there, thanks mate. How do you find the fit? How hard is it it for you to put on? How much pain are you in with it on?



unfortunately, the blast shirts are junk. poor performance + uncomfortable as hell. like piano wire pulled through your arm pit.

i don't subscribe to the beginner shirt theory. buy a good shirt and learn to use it. just don't get something insanely tight.

Interesting... Makes sense to me, but wouldn't you need to take poundages in to account? Obviously i couldnt use a shirt that i cant get 400 to touch...


Thanks alot for the input...

Sensei
05-04-2007, 05:38 AM
The blast blows. Go for a Titan fury for a first shirt, or maybe a metal (1 ply). Don't go w/Rage-X unless you have experience, patience, and a good workout partner/team. I had a fury, and with my arch could touch 275, at the time my raw was about 335lbs, and I got 405 with it. The blast is a glorified tshirt, hell you see dudes at the club wearing shirts that tight.
Wow, I totally disagree. The basic Inzer Blast shirt DOES blow - it made my bench worse, but the EHPHD is a good shirt. Definately not the shirt it was before the RageX, etc., but it's a good shirt.

To the OP,
What I mean by "hiking up the sleeves" is the material should not be bunched up at all on your upper arm - pull the sleeves "down" towards your elbows and take the time to work out any bunched up material at the armpit.

As far as the hunched over feeling - I don't think there's a lot you can do about that except practice your arch and upper back tightness in a shirt A LOT. Keeping your chest out will stretch the material further, creating more tension and, hopefully, increasing the effectiveness of the shirt.

Clifford Gillmore
05-04-2007, 06:09 AM
To the OP,
What I mean by "hiking up the sleeves" is the material should not be bunched up at all on your upper arm - pull the sleeves "down" towards your elbows and take the time to work out any bunched up material at the armpit.


I see. There is no slack in the armpit at all, I've been taking it out while pulling the sleeves on, there is never a chance for it to get bunched in the pits, the back seams drift forward after a few mintues of being on - and I'm going to assume as soon as he setups up. Should we be pulling the sleeves towards his elbows a little more?

Sensei
05-04-2007, 06:32 AM
I always planned to make a video showing how to put on a basic shirt, but never had time...

If you posted a video of you putting on the shirt, we could probably give more feedback, including sizing.

ddurkee
05-04-2007, 02:35 PM
:withstupi

be clear, chris, i'm stupid or my post is stupid?

Sidior
05-04-2007, 02:45 PM
be clear, chris, i'm stupid or my post is stupid?

it means he agrees with you lol

ddurkee
05-04-2007, 02:49 PM
Interesting... Makes sense to me, but wouldn't you need to take poundages in to account? Obviously i couldnt use a shirt that i cant get 400 to touch...

buy a current technology shirt (rage-x, f6, metal bash, whatever) but get the fit a little loose. learning to touch is about form, not weight.

1mmort4l
05-04-2007, 07:15 PM
I always planned to make a video showing how to put on a basic shirt, but never had time...

If you posted a video of you putting on the shirt, we could probably give more feedback, including sizing.

I saw your vid that you made about the basic principles of a shirt, where you used a t shirt bunched up. I would be keen to see a vid if you feel like doing one sometime. Your vids are great, very helpful.

I will get a vid today, and post it up, hope that will help..


buy a current technology shirt (rage-x, f6, metal bash, whatever) but get the fit a little loose. learning to touch is about form, not weight.

How loose are we talking here? With measurements for example, relaxed measurements + 1 inch?
Thanks

Darracq
05-04-2007, 07:27 PM
like the f6. and rage x. I would get a shirt that is 2 sizes bigger than your relazed chest mesurment. if you measure 42 get a size 44.

Sensei
05-04-2007, 07:42 PM
I don't know about Titan sizing, but Inzer you measure shoulder circumference and then consult charts to determine the shirt size.

If you have any doubts, take measurements and then talk to a distributor who is knowledgeable, NOT just any operator that you might get if you called, for example, Inzer directly.

TommyBoy
05-05-2007, 09:45 AM
Wow, I actually had a lot of success with the EHPHD as my first shirt. I'd definitely recommend it as a first shirt. But yeah, touching 315 right away, it's too loose. It took me weeks before I first touched with my EHPHD. So yes I would recommend the EHPHD, but be prepared for pain in the armpit region. If you aren' prepared for pain, start with a Rage X; I learned this thing in like 2 sessions.

Clifford Gillmore
05-05-2007, 08:14 PM
Well, I jumped in the shirt yesterday. I'm probally 2" smaller in the arms and roughly the same size chest. This is how it wen't

225 x no touch
265 x no touch (If I pulled down onto the bar and bellyed up I would of got it down to aroun a one board)
286 x Touched, but no pop off the chest. Complete fail.

There is some nice cuts in my arm pits, they are no where near as bad as 1mmot4ls first few times in it. Its oversized for me but I still got a solid 50lbs carryover.

I'll wait until my double denim gets here and see how I feel in that before I jump into a poly shirt.

vdizenzo
05-06-2007, 09:07 AM
Four words for you "Triples in the shirt!"

Sensei
05-06-2007, 08:18 PM
Four words for you "Triples in the shirt!"
Good point... practice and finding the groove is everything.

smokinHawk
05-07-2007, 12:59 PM
id get a different shirt, i use a loose blast that is 7 years old to help prevent injury and get 0lbs out of it, it is loose enought to not cut me and only takes a minute to put on by myself, but i just use it so i dont hurt my shoulders
i have a titan f6 i am trying to learn completly different shirt, it doesnt cut me and hopefully will add some lbs once i take some time and learn it.

bsnfreak75
11-07-2008, 02:36 PM
Can anyone help me choose the right inzer bench shirt , and a deadlift suit size :

Height : 6'3"
Weight : 115 kg
Chest : 46"
Shoulders : 54"
Biceps : 18"
Waist : 40"
Hips : 46"
Quads : 27"
Followed the sizing chart got a H.D Blast shirt size 54 , but looks heaps to small , do you measure yourself in inchs or cms ?????

Ryano
11-07-2008, 07:43 PM
Followed the sizing chart got a H.D Blast shirt size 54 , but looks heaps to small , do you measure yourself in inchs or cms ?????

Buying a Blast shirt is a total waste of money. See if they will take it back and get a Rage X if you are set on Inzer or an F6/Fury for Titan.

pocoloco blanka
11-07-2008, 08:22 PM
like the f6. and rage x. I would get a shirt that is 2 sizes bigger than your relazed chest mesurment. if you measure 42 get a size 44.
im no pro but i do train with wolfey and my shirt is smaller than my actual measirements. the tighter the better. but i have been using a shirt for 4 to 5 years now.. pain just comes with a shirt, you will always have it. the bloodier my arms are after a workout the better the workout i had... form has everything to do with a shirt. and it takes time. you wont learn it over night...:hello:

JasonLift
11-08-2008, 10:49 AM
id get a different shirt, i use a loose blast that is 7 years old to help prevent injury and get 0lbs out of it, it is loose enought to not cut me and only takes a minute to put on by myself, but i just use it so i dont hurt my shoulders
i have a titan f6 i am trying to learn completly different shirt, it doesnt cut me and hopefully will add some lbs once i take some time and learn it.


I was actually considering getting a basic blast shirt for just that purpose (not hurting my shoulder). I tend to fail on my ME bench workout because of shoulder pain before my lift actually fails. Does that shirt help out?

abebesheir
11-08-2008, 01:43 PM
I had a size 52 HPHD when I weighed 190... I was able to put it on myself and still got 20 pounds out of it the first time I wore it.
My raw bench was 285x1 t&g and I got a 305x1 paused in the shirt. The next week, I hit 315 in the shirt but with no pause.
I was able to touch with 265, BTW.
I do agree that these shirts really tear you up in the armpit region.

mosley1990
11-08-2008, 02:37 PM
someone mentioned measuring around your shoulders...i thought you measured you chest? idk.

Eric Downey
11-08-2008, 07:27 PM
i think that shirt is crap. should have got the phenom or the rage/rage x. sorry bro i think you waidted your money.