View Full Version : Going good till the steak

05-16-2007, 04:27 AM
16 oz of steak. I was at 1800ish cals for the whole day, got home ravenous after a hard training and demolished that.

Punched it into my fit day and nearly passed ouy when I saw 1150cals. I knew it was alot, but not that much!!!

grams cals %total
Total: 3031
Fat: 159 1428 48%
Sat: 45 408 14%
Poly: 39 351 12%
Mono: 57 514 17%
Carbs: 61 204 7%
Fiber: 10 0 0%
Protein: 331 1324 45%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

I am going low carb I know, and I like it, so dont worry about the diet itself.

Now this was pretty much straight after my workout. I figure at 222lbs a solid 55lbs of me is flubber... so about 25% bodyfat.

What would my maitenence be, 3200ish?

First day oif cutting, EVER, going all smooth till that.

The fat mainly comes from the big blobs of mayo I had in my humongous tuna salads, should I change over to olive oil?

And yes Im cutting, rowing stopped and I ballooned to 220... not happy.

05-16-2007, 04:38 AM
222 lbs...first day of cutting...1800 calories

it seems like you're going too low, too fast

how many calories a day were you eating before this?

Honestly I think you need to completely revamp your diet if you're going to be cutting...

159g of fat? that needs to be around 100-111g
carbs too low...decrease fat, up these a little
protein...not too bad

remember cutting is mainly calories in vs. calories out (don't get swept away with low carb, you'll need them for energy)

05-16-2007, 04:49 AM
first day of cutting =3000, any idea as to where i need to be? god I need my camera back.

The revamp thing worked fine for me, I simply orgnaised everything the night before, and can stick with this diet no problems.

Were do you reccomend placing the carbs, complex? SO maybe a little less tuna salald, a little less mayo/olive oil, and maybe chuck in 2 slices of whole grain bread?

05-16-2007, 04:57 AM
I would add the carbs before and after you work out (decreasing fats 50g means you have 450 calories to spend if needed)

what you eat for carbs depends on where your carbs are currently coming from...dairy, whole wheats, veggies, and some fruits are all good sources

ditch the mayo (brown mustard is a good alternative), keep the olive oil but not as much

and what I meant by 1800 your first day of cutting was that it was too low of a goal...you should progressively work down to that if needed

do you know how many calories you were consuming before you decided to start cutting?

If not, I would probably start your cut around 3000 and see how much weight you lose and go from there

05-16-2007, 05:05 AM
Well... I just crunched some numbers, I was eating a clean 4500 prior to cutting.

I had some powerade after my workout, then the steak (remember, no whey or supps here)

Ok, mayo is gone bye bye, but Im lebanese, good luck seperating me from my olvie oil!, bult ill cut that down... grumble*

Im eating some bran and yohgurt in the morning, and thats about it for carbs.

Ill add a potato and egg salad before training? and maybe some more strachy food after training as well.

05-16-2007, 05:18 AM
4500 and you tried to only eat 1800.....nooo way

if that's the case I would start at like 4000 calories and just try and eat as clean as possible

05-16-2007, 05:34 AM

05-16-2007, 08:26 AM
4500 and you tried to only eat 1800.....nooo way

But couldn't, and basically was forced to take in another 1100 before feeling satiated.

For everyone else reading-

Case in point as to why you should sometimes listen to your body. 1800 isn't "good", don't think that "the lower the better while cutting". You weren't doing well until the steak... you were doing quite badly by taking in so few calories that your system was under some serious stress. If you had taken in around 2500 prior, you might have not been so ravenous and had half the steak.

05-17-2007, 12:39 AM
I would have still eaten the steak :p

Thanks for that Belial, and im taking it on board, bumping things up to a consistent 3000, Imma wait for a week, se how it is, then maybe drop it 2500 if Im happy with my rate of loss.

05-17-2007, 01:47 AM
If your getting enough protein in your diet even if your calories are low you shoudl be fine in terms of holding on to you muscle. That the idea of PSMF in general.

05-17-2007, 03:44 AM
Well, Im getting about 300 grams a day on averag,e and thats just from food.

Im happy to diet extreme, tis actually easier this way.