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jerry91
05-21-2007, 10:26 PM
Ive been looking for a good fat burner. Any feedback would be greatly appreaciated. Also could you tell me where to buy it. Ive heard of ECL stacked with Caffeine? :thumbup:

Mr. D
05-21-2007, 10:44 PM
Whats your diet currently like?No fat burner is going to work unless you are in caloric deficit and even then basically all they do is give you energy, keep appetite at bay, and maybe keep the metabolism going a little bit.

Fat burning starts with eating less and exercising more(if you currently arent).

skeeterx15
05-21-2007, 10:50 PM
Ive been looking for a good fat burner. Any feedback would be greatly appreaciated. Also could you tell me where to buy it. Ive heard of ECL stacked with Caffeine? :thumbup:

If you like thermogenics, Xenadrine is the best bang for the buck imo.

Edit: Make sure you don't get the long lasting 8 hour one if you decide to give it a try.

jerry91
05-21-2007, 10:52 PM
I try to eat less than 2000 cal a day. And I just got shoulder surgery so the only thing I could do is cardio and lower body exercise. I try to do this every day except weekends

skeeterx15
05-21-2007, 10:58 PM
Just found a link for the particular version of Xenadrine I was referring to, hope it helps. 120 caps for 20.00 plus shipping is probably the cheapest you'll find it.

http://www.herballoveshop.com/product.asp?PID=9281

good site for product reviews as well.

jerry91
05-21-2007, 11:00 PM
thanks for your feedback

Mr. D
05-21-2007, 11:07 PM
less than 2k cals a day?what are your current stats (age,height,weight,bf%)

Do you track on fitday.com, if so post up a link so we can gander at it.

Are there no physical rehab type upper body exercises that you are able to do?How long ago was surgery?

jerry91
05-21-2007, 11:20 PM
Im 27, 5'9 between 175-180lbs and I have no idea my BF% but I really need to loose the gut I have developed recently. Its been about a month since surgery and I just started physical therapy, and my therapist told me not to do any upperbody excersises specially with my left shoulder. I do track my cal on fitday.com

jerry91
05-22-2007, 01:54 AM
Where can I find the best deal on Ephedrine(HCL) and Caffeine pills.

The Champion
05-22-2007, 07:02 AM
Where can I find the best deal on Ephedrine(HCL) and Caffeine pills.

use www.froogle.com to search

Mr. D
05-22-2007, 09:30 AM
since you are pretty set on using:

www.supplementdirect.com

jerry91
05-22-2007, 02:37 PM
Do you have any other suggestions? Is clen any good?

Mr. D
05-22-2007, 02:59 PM
do lots of research on clen. you are not going to find that in any supplement stores or legally anywhere in the US.

skeeterx15
05-22-2007, 03:14 PM
Do you have any other suggestions? Is clen any good?

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