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CaLLmeAhNuLd
05-25-2007, 07:12 PM
okay..i know that alcohol is in no way shape or form a good idea for lifting, but if i must drink, would vodka and orange juice be a better solution than beer or coke and jack?

getfit
05-25-2007, 07:22 PM
must? why must?You have a drink because you want to.

Everything in moderation.

Altephor
05-25-2007, 07:51 PM
I'm also confused why you must drink.

CaLLmeAhNuLd
05-25-2007, 07:52 PM
my gosh be literal here its because i want..

crunkdizzle
05-25-2007, 07:59 PM
alcohol is alcohol.. obviously if u tryin to cut and u wanna drink drink hard liqour. but theres no way that vodka and oj is better for u than jack n coke, they both about the same %age so they gonna have the same effect on ur body

Stray
05-25-2007, 08:03 PM
Jack and diet coke for teh win.

Smooth23
05-25-2007, 09:08 PM
Excuse me, pass the lager.

BeastyBrad123
05-26-2007, 06:19 AM
okay..i know that alcohol is in no way shape or form a good idea for lifting, but if i must drink, would vodka and orange juice be a better solution than beer or coke and jack?

In moderation I believe alchohol isnt too harmful. But if you are truly a motivated and dedicated lifter then whats the point in havin that drink? You might even regret it later on.

hottytoddychick
05-26-2007, 08:25 PM
Jack and diet coke for minimal calorie intake

samj
05-27-2007, 09:06 AM
On the road to gettn huge!!!

Right Now: Anabolic diet
REALY?

seanthadon
06-26-2009, 01:03 PM
does alchohol effect muscle recovery?

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-26-2009, 01:31 PM
does alchohol effect muscle recovery?
Not unless you're an alcoholic. Drink moderately. Have fun. Don't fret trivial things.

Trainwreck
06-26-2009, 01:47 PM
Please see the following...

http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/alcohol.htm

Alcohol calories
Successful weight loss is all about oxidizing (or burning), more
calories than you eat. When they go on a diet, many people choose
low-calorie alcoholic drinks, mainly because they contain fewer
alcohol calories than their regular counterparts.

However, this recent study, published in the American Journal of
Clinical Nutrition, shows that even a very small amount of alcohol has
a large impact on fat metabolism.

Eight men were given two drinks of vodka and lemonade separated by 30
minutes. Each drink contained just under 90 calories. Fat metabolism
was measured before and after consumption of the drink.

For several hours after drinking the vodka, whole body lipid oxidation
(a measure of how much fat your body is burning) dropped by a massive
73%.


Here's why...
Rather than getting stored as fat, the main fate of alcohol is
conversion into a substance called acetate. In fact, blood levels of
acetate after drinking the vodka were 2.5 times higher than normal.
And it appears this sharp rise in acetate puts the brakes on fat loss.

A car engine typically uses only one source of fuel. Your body, on the
other hand, draws from a number of different energy sources, such as
carbohydrate, fat, and protein. To a certain extent, the source of
fuel your body uses is dictated by its availability. In other words,
your body tends to use whatever you feed it.

Consequently, when acetate levels rise, your body simply burns more
acetate, and less fat. In essence, acetate pushes fat to the back of
the queue.

So, to summarize and review, here's what happens to fat metabolism
after the odd drink or two...

1. A small portion of the alcohol is converted into fat.

2. Your liver then converts most of the alcohol into acetate.

3. The acetate is then released into your bloodstream, and replaces
fat as a source of fuel.

Your bodies' response to alcohol is very similar to the way it deals
with excess carbohydrate. Although carbohydrate can be converted
directly into fat, one of the main effects of overfeeding with
carbohydrate is that it simply replaces fat as a source of energy.
That's why any type of diet, whether it's high-fat, high-protein, or
high-carbohydrate, can lead to a gain in weight.

The bottom line?


Even a small amount of alcohol can have a big impact on the rate at which your body
burns fat -- even if the drink is low in calories.


Reference

Siler, S.Q., Neese, R.A., & Hellerstein, M.K. (1999). De novo
lipogenesis, lipid kinetics, and whole-body lipid balances in humans
after acute alcohol consumption. American Journal of Clinical
Nutrition, 70, 928-936

If you must drink, drink it straight. Don't be a pussy.

VikingWarlord
06-26-2009, 02:13 PM
If it's under 80 proof, it's for women.

Mercuryblade
06-26-2009, 02:17 PM
If it's under 80 proof, it's for women.

http://www.badservo.com/external_links/2007gift/sj.jpg

It's way too easy to over-do it with Sailor Jerry.

Optimum08
06-26-2009, 02:17 PM
:withstupi:

Agreed. Anything below 80 proof (hard liqour-wise) is not worth drinking.

McLaughlin
06-26-2009, 02:26 PM
If it's under 80 proof, it's for women.

Hell yes.


http://www.badservo.com/external_links/2007gift/sj.jpg

It's way too easy to over-do it with Sailor Jerry.

Sailor Jerry = WIN

First thing I thought of after Viking's post.

jreed110
06-26-2009, 02:55 PM
I don't get why people get so anti alcohol. Looking after yourself is important but you have to enjoy yourself and live a little as well. Fair enough if you don't drink anyway but to completely give up just for your training is way too extreme unless you're proffessional in my opinion. Just keep it in moderation.

VikingWarlord
06-26-2009, 03:30 PM
Sailor Jerry is ass. Two weekends ago I got ripped the hell up on Absinthe and lemon vodka. That was an interesting evening.

d0rkyd00d
06-26-2009, 03:37 PM
One word: Zima. 32 bottles of that and I had a nice little buzz going.

The Bran Man
06-26-2009, 08:08 PM
Excuse me, pass the lager.

fa sho.

VikingWarlord
06-27-2009, 12:08 AM
One word: Zima. 32 bottles of that and I had a nice little buzz going.

God, I hope this is a joke.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-27-2009, 01:16 AM
One word: Zima. 32 bottles of that and I had a nice little buzz going.
Yeah... 4.8% is hardcore!

VikingWarlord
06-27-2009, 01:25 AM
It's the 32 bottles part that made me suspect a joke. The sad thing is that I know guys that have done things like that so it might not be a joke after all.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-27-2009, 01:26 AM
It's the 32 bottles part that made me suspect a joke. The sad thing is that I know guys that have done things like that so it might not be a joke after all.
Yeah I can't tell with him...