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Relentless
06-11-2007, 07:56 AM
http://www.fergusscottishfestival.com/heavies/school.htm

Going to toss me some cabers, see if I can't keep up with that midget out east.

Anyone else down here in south/southwestern Ontario interested? It'd be cool to get a WBB contigent all down there together.

Clearly, I have to wear an At Large shirt with my kilt. :)

getfit
06-11-2007, 08:15 AM
Sounds interesting.I'll keep that in mind.

Detard
06-11-2007, 09:04 AM
I'll see if I can make it. It's about 45 minutes from Toronto so its not too far. Relentless are you coming to the Toronto meet?

Sidior
06-11-2007, 09:38 AM
A have a buddy who would love to do that, seems like a good time. Thanks for the link.

Relentless
06-11-2007, 10:29 AM
Relentless are you coming to the Toronto meet?

No. Family commitments.
Plus I'm little and weak. :D

Anthony
06-12-2007, 07:15 AM
Definitely go!! You'll have a blast!

Chubrock
06-12-2007, 07:17 AM
Definitely go!! You'll have a blast!

Good to see you back around.

Gunshow
06-12-2007, 11:33 PM
are you talking about the highland games in georgetown?

Gunshow
06-12-2007, 11:34 PM
nvm i read it its in fergus

RedSpikeyThing
06-15-2007, 03:27 PM
cool! Are you competing on the saturday?

Relentless
06-16-2007, 10:00 AM
If I win the "school" competition on Friday i will be in the amateur div on Sat.

We'll see.

Relentless
08-06-2007, 04:13 PM
Observations from Day one of the school.

1) I am not naturally adept at any of the events.
2) 56# is a bloody heavy weight to swing around in one hand.
3) The instructors, including Warren Trask and Scotland's Jamie Barr (elite WSM competitor) are FANTASTIC.
4) This is great in conjunction with Crossfit.

Anthony
08-06-2007, 05:38 PM
EVERYONE hates the 56!

Relentless
08-06-2007, 06:07 PM
oh I don't hate it... it was just damned heavy

Anthony
08-07-2007, 06:08 AM
:rolleyes:

That's what is meant by hate ... "it's ****ing heavy!"

And then you see some pros starting routine and it looks like a 14 pounder ...

Relentless
08-07-2007, 05:08 PM
Observations from Day Two:

1) I am pretty decent naturally at the hammer throw. Kinesthetically it just works for me. It also helps that I had as my instructor, none other than Steven Aitken from Scotland.

2) Sheaf toss is stupid. I don't like it. Mostly because I can't do it.

3) Caber toss is MUCH easier than I thought. Basically it's a balance exercise coupled with a power clean. I did pretty well, here, learning how to turn my caber after a false start or two. The renowned Reverend Dr. Kevin Fast helped me to sort out my throw.

Rusty
08-07-2007, 06:01 PM
The sheaf toss is the shizzle, second only to the weight for height which has a slightly higher shizzle factor.

Anthony
08-07-2007, 06:10 PM
Sheaf toss is pretty fun once you get the hang of it - but it's definitely awkward at first!

What size cabers are you using in the workshop?

Relentless
08-07-2007, 09:01 PM
Sheaf toss is pretty fun once you get the hang of it - but it's definitely awkward at first!

What size cabers are you using in the workshop?

Robertson Cabers

Relentless
08-10-2007, 04:23 PM
Well, I qualified for the 'real' competition on Saturday/Sunday with a moderately good showing today at the school games.

9th of a field of 17 which dropped to 16 after one guy (who was a former elite level sprinter who ran with Ben Johnson) blew out his patellar tendon on the WFD.

My best efforts:
17# open stone: 28'6"
56# WFD: 17'6" (might have gotten more but was freaked out a little after watching the guy blow his knee out)
28# WFD: 37'7"
16# Hammer: 76'10"
16# Sheaf: 20'
56# WFH: 11'
Caber: 1:00, 1:00, 88 degrees (was trying to baby a cracked caber and didn't flip hard enough...)

I felt that that 11' WFH and the hammer were my best events. On the WFH I think I was 4th or 5th so and the hammer I was maybe 5th as well.

There were a number of guys that have been doing this for anywhere from 3-7 years, and the top three guys were all phenomenal... one guy finished first in every event and is only getting better... young guy whose dad also throws. Out of all the guys that were out for the first time, I think I was first or maybe second. For a 'qualifying round' there were some awfully experienced amateur competitors. There were also a couple of monstrously big guys. One guy plays semi-pro football as a Guard and must have weighed 280-300lbs at 6'1".

Overall I had a blast, I'm looking forward to the weekend and I think I might just do all this again. It was certainly good exercise. Well, except for the poor guy that blew his knee out.

Relentless
08-10-2007, 04:47 PM
For the record, I really just wanted to make sure that I beat some of Anthony's throws. ;)

Paul Stagg
08-10-2007, 05:00 PM
Awesome! Not much cooler than lifting in a kilt.

Anthony
08-11-2007, 06:42 AM
You beat me on three (WFH, Sheaf, Hammer) ... but not by much. ;)

I totally owned you on everything else though! :p

Seriously though, awesome work. Glad you enjoyed it!

redFury
08-11-2007, 09:15 AM
Awesome! Not much cooler than lifting in a kilt.

Haha.... literally I suppose. What was the sprinters name? I'd be curious as I am kinda a track junkie

Relentless
08-11-2007, 02:22 PM
You beat me on three (WFH, Sheaf, Hammer) ... but not by much. ;)

I totally owned you on everything else though! :p

Seriously though, awesome work. Glad you enjoyed it!


I also did better than 2:00 on the caber. :p
And as of today, I own personal bests of
20'10" on 56#WFD
and
29'11" on stone put

We'll see if I can top your 28# WFD tomorrow morning. :) I have set a goal of 45'. I've corrected a form problem in my rotation with the WFD so that should help a LOT.

Relentless
08-11-2007, 02:25 PM
Haha.... literally I suppose. What was the sprinters name? I'd be curious as I am kinda a track junkie

http://www.athletics.uoguelph.ca/Varsity_Sport/Staff/69

Anthony
08-11-2007, 03:05 PM
Caber doesn't count unless we throw the same caber. :p

Relentless
08-13-2007, 08:18 AM
I managed only 8th place (out of 10) overall. Did not have a great sunday, as I failed to turn the caber and got only mediocre sheaf and 28# WFD throws.

All in all though I am very pleased with the experience and would do it against. Christoph Wand, a professional highland athlete lives in my town a few blocks away from me and says I'm welcome to join him in the spring when he starts training again (the season's almost over).

Rusty
12-25-2007, 05:26 PM
Hey relentless, are you going in 2008?

I've seriously considered signing up for this, and I think I'm going to give it a shot next year. Any tips or advice? How was the training they provided? What did it cost?

Relentless
12-26-2007, 08:43 AM
Hey.

I plan to go to 5 or 6 games in 2008, not just Fergus. :)

The $200 2-day training in Fergus was pretty good. It is what you make of it though. I had NO pride about asking questions and looking dumb, so as a result I got a pretty good value for my $$ and felt that I progressed pretty well. Some other guys kind of hung back and didn't ask questions and were more about just throwing stuff, so ultimately they didn't get as firm a grounding in the technique (I think). I was kind of a spaz with the footwork on some of the lead-ups to some of the throws, so I really had to break it down to individual therbligs, ya know?

We were fortunate in that they had a couple of extra pros helping out the main masters throwers that were running the show, so I got to learn from some world class throwers as well as the more modest (but still awesome) local masters.

Tips:
Unless you're a Scottish authenticity freak, get your kilt from Sportkilt.com
In the meantime, practice C&J, power cleans, snatches, etc.
Check out www.csaf.ca. Forums are ok. Might want to buy the training DVD they have.
If you can find a pro/master thrower to train with in your local area this spring, do so. I plan to.
Just have fun. Despite it being a competition, everyone was super supportive and enthusiastic. Great group of guys.

mikesbytes
05-16-2008, 07:20 AM
How does the scoring on the caber work?

Rusty
05-16-2008, 07:51 AM
How does the scoring on the caber work?

It's measured by how/where the caber falls. Picture a clock with 12 O'clock facing directly away from the thrower. A perfect toss is 12 and it goes out from there. 11 and 1 would be equal, a 1:30 would beat a 10 or 2. If the caber doesn't make it over end, it's judged by the highest angle it achieves. So a 83 degrees would beat a 65 degrees.

Relentless
05-16-2008, 07:51 AM
How does the scoring on the caber work?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caber_toss#Scoring
:study:
Google, baby! Maybe you've heard of it? :p

mikesbytes
05-16-2008, 04:07 PM
Thanks Relentless, wikipedia is a great resource.

Definently having a go that that.

Klotz
06-09-2008, 05:17 PM
Hey I'm kind of interested in this. I suck at throwing in general but I'd like to get better.

Relentless
06-09-2008, 08:57 PM
http://www.fergusscottishfestival.com/heavies/school.htm