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manowar669
06-11-2007, 11:46 AM
I've read that there are no naturally occuring non-animal food sources of Vit B12, so vegans need to supplement B12 since it's essential for human health. How do they make the B12 supplements? Do they make it from an animal product? If so, wouldn't vegans be consuming animals? What about other supplements?

Alex.V
06-11-2007, 12:17 PM
Do they make it from an animal product? If so, wouldn't vegans be consuming animals?


Yep.

Alex.V
06-11-2007, 02:13 PM
Well, ok, since I feel guilty for only giving a partial answer..


B12 is technically made by bacteria. However, it's only found (in food form) in any significant quantities (admittedly, even that isn't much) in animals.

Certain plant-derived B12 supplements actually contain B12 from small numbers of insects and other animals trapped and processed in the extraction process. Spirulina is one example.

So while nobody needs huge amounts of B12, if you're trying to supplement it, it WILL technically be coming from an 'animal' source.

Stray
06-11-2007, 06:30 PM
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Lones Green
06-11-2007, 07:18 PM
Veganism = highly respectable life choice

lifting weights = not the best hobby to choose while vegan.

just my 2 cents.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-11-2007, 07:21 PM
Can you drink milk?

CrazyK
06-11-2007, 07:24 PM
Can you drink milk?If you are a Vegan than you don't drink milk. Vegetarians do however.

Beast
06-11-2007, 07:41 PM
Yeah, it would be damn tough to gain muscle as a pure vegan.

getfit
06-11-2007, 07:43 PM
Yeah, it would be damn tough to gain muscle as a pure vegan.

Seriously! I couldn't live as a vegan

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-11-2007, 09:04 PM
If you are a Vegan than you don't drink milk. Vegetarians do however.It's going to be very hard for him to get adequate protein then. There's this site ~> http://www.recipezaar.com/recipes.php?categ=high-protein%2Cvegetarian

But many of those recipes contain dairy products. =\

manowar669
06-12-2007, 05:54 AM
NO, NO! I'm not a Vegan. I'm actually studying up on man's evolutionary history as being primarily carnivorous. I'm annoyed by vegans/vegetarians who think it makes them a superior human being. I respect those who choose a lifestyle for their own personal reasons. I dislike those who choose a lifestyle as a reason to be a snob.
In my opinion, being vegan/vegetarian makes them less of a human being, since it's apparent that eating animals is a major part of humanity's development. So is warfare, but that's for another forum.
I don't mean to insult vegans or vegetarians here on the board, since no one is pushing that lifestyle on me. I think Getfit and lots of female members are vegetarians, and I respect them. Especially since they help other posters with info on that dietary lifestyle.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-12-2007, 01:33 PM
I'm sorry, but plants have been around for a LOOOONG time. Large brains are one of the primary specialties of human beings. I'm sure they could've figured out that there was more to eating than just animals.

Alex.V
06-12-2007, 01:39 PM
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Meh, I figure if people are vegan for moral purposes, they should eventually realize that humanity in general is a plague on the earth, and then they can all kill themselves.

sCaRz*Of*PaiN
06-12-2007, 01:41 PM
In a positive mood today, I see. ;)

Alex.V
06-12-2007, 02:11 PM
always.

Krague-
06-12-2007, 02:43 PM
The arguments for it are strong :P


Meh, I figure if people are vegan for moral purposes, they should eventually realize that humanity in general is a plague on the earth, and then they can all kill themselves.

DARKKNIGHT
06-12-2007, 06:26 PM
MMMMM meat good