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Stea1th
06-16-2007, 09:52 PM
What should I be eating to gain muscle but still lose fat at the gym?

Is it even possible?

Should I do cardio on my off days?

Should I not be eating everything in sight?


I'm 5'8 185lb's. I don't have much muscle on me.

seK
06-16-2007, 10:16 PM
What should I be eating to gain muscle but still lose fat at the gym?

Is it even possible?

Should I do cardio on my off days?

Should I not be eating everything in sight?


I'm 5'8 185lb's. I don't have much muscle on me.
All the information you are looking for is in the stickies at the top of these forums.

Mr. D
06-17-2007, 12:13 AM
What should I be eating to gain muscle but still lose fat at the gym?

What to eat is important, but for losing fat it comes down to how much you eat. You can get fat eating "healthy".


Is it even possible?

For newbies and people coming off long layoff, it is possible initially to gain muscle and lose fat, however that novelty wears off after a few months.


Should I do cardio on my off days?

Sure, but its not going to help in your quest to gain muscle and lose fat.
If you want to do cardio, check out this link:
http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=292


Should I not be eating everything in sight?

Thats generally applicable for most people regardless of cutting or bulking.


I'm 5'8 185lb's. I don't have much muscle on me.

Do you know what your bodyfat% is?You might want to lean out as much as possible. This would require a caloric deficit, i.e. eating 10-20% less than your maintenance cals.

In setting up a diet, make sure you are getting 1g/lbm of protein and 1g/lbm of fats. Fill up the rest of your cals with pro,carb,fats any way you like.

lbm = bodyweight = bodyfat

HighSchoolGuy
06-17-2007, 03:27 PM
Food you eat...that BURNS fat..and BUILDS muscle? Wow, if you ever do find out what it is, please tell me.

Sontizzle
06-17-2007, 05:25 PM
5'8" and 185 with no muscle? u should be quite stocky at that size

Stea1th
06-17-2007, 10:24 PM
Food you eat...that BURNS fat..and BUILDS muscle? Wow, if you ever do find out what it is, please tell me.

I'm going to the gym every other day and lifting weights. I'm just wondering
if i could loose the fat at the same time.

Like for chest press I can only do like 60lb's. max

BigBossMan
06-19-2007, 01:58 PM
I'm going to the gym every other day and lifting weights. I'm just wondering
if i could loose the fat at the same time.

Like for chest press I can only do like 60lb's. max

You won't gain muscle mass and lose fat generally so you need to decide if you want to gain muscle or lose fat....when you decide that the people here can be very helpful in giving you the knowledge to achieve your goal. IMO I would lose the fat first, but that is becuase I hate fat, but some people have fat that disperses evenly through there body and isn't as noticeable. Its up to you

Alex.V
06-19-2007, 08:57 PM
dbol.

FiRe
06-21-2007, 12:17 AM
Sure, but its not going to help in your quest to gain muscle and lose fat.
If you want to do cardio, check out this link:
http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=292



I disagree.... maybe you won't gain as much muscle but when you do cardio on your off days you're still burning fat. Think about it.... if you're lifting 3 - 4 times a week with no cardio as opposed to 3 - 4 days of lifting with cardio on off days..... you're going to lose more fat if you do the cardio....

I know that the ideal way to lose muscle is eat more calories then you burn.... but if you do that on the days you lift there is NO DOUBT you will gain muscle..... then the next day you can just follow up with cardio and burn some fat....

There isn't some rule that says that it's impossible to lose muscle and lose fat at the same time.... the human body is an amazing thing....

Mr. D
06-21-2007, 12:34 AM
I disagree.... maybe you won't gain as much muscle but when you do cardio on your off days you're still burning fat.

By doing cardio, you are limiting the fat gain and possibly even the muscle gain. You are just creating a smaller caloric surplus.


Think about it.... if you're lifting 3 - 4 times a week with no cardio as opposed to 3 - 4 days of lifting with cardio on off days..... you're going to lose more fat if you do the cardio....

See above.


I know that the ideal way to lose muscle is eat more calories then you burn....

You mean gain muscle.


but if you do that on the days you lift there is NO DOUBT you will gain muscle..... then the next day you can just follow up with cardio and burn some fat....

To burn fat you have to be in caloric deficit, one or two days out of 7 is not going to create that deficit. Lets say on lifting days you eat maintenance+20% and off-days you eat Maintenance-20% +cardio. At the end of the week there is a chance you will likely be at equilibrium and thus no muscle gain/loss as well as no fat gain/loss.


There isn't some rule that says that it's impossible to lose muscle and lose fat at the same time.... the human body is an amazing thing....

Its not impossible, but its tough for the average lifter with average genetics. You can try tricked up diets that let you lose fat while gaining some lbm (UD2.0 comes to mind), but you really are going to have to decide on a goal: Gain muscle with some fat or Burn fat and maintain/possibly lose muscle.

Or you can venture into the anabolic forum and exchange pleasantries with compassionate souls like Hatred.

Stea1th
06-22-2007, 09:06 AM
Well I rather build muscle.
I'm going up in weight, but it doesn't seem like I'm getting fatter. Then
again it's only been 3 weeks.

Stea1th
07-01-2007, 09:13 PM
dbol.

Ya, would that actually work better?

Rusty
07-01-2007, 09:22 PM
Ya, would that actually work better?

Yes it would.

BBB
07-01-2007, 09:22 PM
Ya, would that actually work better?

tuttut He wasn't serious.

Alex.V
07-01-2007, 09:27 PM
Maybe not. But I still made a good point. :)

BBB
07-02-2007, 07:40 AM
Personally, I thought it was quite funny.

love2sweat
07-02-2007, 02:34 PM
stickies my friend! i just read threw them. great stuff!

Stea1th
07-03-2007, 09:47 AM
i just ordered some dbol.

Do i just take a pill a day and go work out.

Unholy
07-03-2007, 09:59 AM
This thread delivers.


i just ordered some dbol.

Do i just take a pill a day and go work out.

Make sure you buy some nolvadex to rub on your chest post workout to avoid gyno.

Cirino83
07-03-2007, 10:06 AM
i just ordered some dbol.

Do i just take a pill a day and go work out.

:hello: Everyone knows that you just take a pill a day and don't need to even workout.




Make sure you buy some nolvadex to rub on your chest post workout to avoid gyno.


:evillaugh

Mr. D
07-03-2007, 10:25 AM
i just ordered some dbol.

Do i just take a pill a day and go work out.

You are not serious???Its probablyy not legit dianabol and secondly you have no place touching any anabolics in your stage of training/dieting.

smokinHawk
07-03-2007, 10:38 AM
look at mike wolfe's diet, he has been loosing fat and getting stronger.
people here need to get off their seniority high horses and just help people.

Alex.V
07-03-2007, 10:46 AM
You are not serious???Its probablyy not legit dianabol and secondly you have no place touching any anabolics in your stage of training/dieting.

I thought I was the only one having problems detecting deadpan humor.

Jeffreyk
07-03-2007, 02:53 PM
yeah....take one dbol and see what it does for ya....it's the magic potion.....lol.........

Stea1th
07-03-2007, 09:23 PM
look at mike wolfe's diet, he has been loosing fat and getting stronger.
people here need to get off their seniority high horses and just help people.

Whats that?

Alex.V
07-03-2007, 09:44 PM
look at mike wolfe's diet, he has been loosing fat and getting stronger.
people here need to get off their seniority high horses and just help people.

Getting stronger doesn't necessarily mean building muscle, especially for elite powerlifters. The guy asked about building muscle.

And who's being on any high horse?

Stea1th
07-05-2007, 09:04 PM
I took some dbol and now 2 days later, my lower back feels like it's on fire.

Unholy
07-05-2007, 09:05 PM
Rofl:thumbup:

Stea1th
07-16-2007, 10:25 AM
I stopped taking the dbol..my lower back has this crazy burning pain.

I went to the doctor and he said it was my kidneys...well wtf.

Cirino83
07-16-2007, 10:30 AM
I took some dbol and now 2 days later, my lower back feels like it's on fire.

I hope your just dicking with us.... tuttut

Bako Lifter
07-16-2007, 11:29 AM
Whats that?

You were joking about ordering dbol right?

IZich
07-16-2007, 11:35 AM
I stopped taking the dbol..my lower back has this crazy burning pain.

I went to the doctor and he said it was my kidneys...well wtf.

uhhhh.

Belial was kidding.

I'm sorry I actually had to spell that one out, but better safe than sorry I guess (and better late than never).

Alex.V
07-16-2007, 04:18 PM
Crap. Internet lawsuit time.

Chubrock
07-16-2007, 04:47 PM
He's gonna take you down. Take you down to Chinatown.