I know it is generally considered not a good idea to use straps, however, what if you don't really plan to rely on them and am doing other supplemental grip work?
See, I just recently joined a new gym and for the most part it's better than my last, but the knurling on the bar is not deep at all and my grip on deadlifts suffers because of it. I've done 435 before, but with these bars I failed on my third rep with 355. So I figured I'd start training grip and for the time being use lifting straps for my heavy deadlifts (won't use them for lighter ones, only my last set). How does that sound? Because I know I can deadlift much more. With a bar with deep knurling 355 would be pretty easy for 5 reps, but not now.
Also, here's what I'm doing for grip... (three times a week)
3x15 seconds Two Hands Pinch Lift for holds
3x15 Finger curls with an Olympic Bar
3x15 Two Hand Wrist Curl
3x15 Two Hands Reverse Wrist Curl.
Also, while I'm at it I figured I'd pick up a belt (again, only used for max effort lifts) so how does this one look?
I also plan to compete later down the road so would that belt be legal in powerlifting competitions? While I'm at it I guess I'll pick up some chalk. I currently have "liquid chalk" because my last gym didn't allow chalk.
Originally Posted by KoolDrew
It sounds fine. That's exactly what I do...use straps for my last and heaviest set.
Sounds like a good plan as long as you don't use them too often. It can be easy to just put the straps on because they are convenient.
In terms of grip strength, I'm not sure how much wrist curls will help. I would suggest doing static holds, farmer's walks and rack pulls. Basically movements that mimic the deadlift in some way.
That belt looks good. Check with your federation, but I believe all Inzer products are allowed in comp.
I know the wrist curls won't help my deadlift exactly, but my grip pretty much sucks all around, including wrist strength/flexibility.
If you're planning on powerlifting, than you shouldn't even think about using straps. If your grip is slipping than use chalk and work your way back up to what you could pull before. You're only as strong as your weakest link, so build up that link. Straps are the easy way out.
bad advice. so make his deadlift stall because he cant hold the bar yet?
Originally Posted by Rusty
use straps if you have to but make sure to work your grip aside from that if you are competing in a no-strap comp.
You're right, I'm totally wrong. Strap away Drew, and best of luck to ya.
Originally Posted by prizeoasis
using straps are fine, as long as you don't go overboard with them. as it was said, its to easy to decide to start using them more and more. i have been using straps for a long time, but i make sure i only use them on my last sets that are the heaviest, where my grip just won't hold at all.
I don't think the knurling has anything to do with it. If your strength in your forearms is good enough to keep your fingers curled around the bar, what's it matter what the knurling is like. It's all in your head, imo.
You'll be surprised what a good amount of chalk can do to ur grip. Once u get the chalk, I highly doubt you'll even need the straps. Are u using double overhand? mixed? hook?
Edit: For the belt, should be legal, although I'm not exactly sure on all feds, but IMO it's better to get a single prong rather than double as when ur fighting to get it on/off one prong will always make it much easier.
^ I agree, I use a double overhand grip but my grip would give out on the last couple of reps and I would used mixed. But after I got chalk I don't even need to worry about grip at the least for double overhand.
Here are a couple of more grip exercises that have been used to success for myself and the guys on the pl team:
Captains of crush trainer, no.1, no.2
Vertical sleeve deadlifts
These work really really well... I can explain these if you aren't sure on a few of them.
Could you explain what a vertical sleeve deadlift is?
Originally Posted by redFury
I use them for DB shrugs and maybe back work if my grip is shot.