Keith I feel with all the new technology in powerlifting as far as suits and shirts go it is a joke. 1st of all the sport is being hurt with all the equipment be cause everyone knows you can't lift the weight the shirt does most of the work. Karin's Extreme power Shirts have claims of as much as 245lbs added to a bench. What's wrong with this picture when a man can only bench press 365 and with a shirt can get 600lb bench? That is a joke because the same shirt only gives another guy 40-50 pounds. and now you have double and triple ply and guys using 2 shirt and elbow wraps. It is all a joke. More guys are bombing out now at meet because they depend on the shirts or suits too much. At Bench America 3 of 5 bombed out in the 181 class and 2-3 bombed out in the SHW class or it may have been a different heavyweight class. Lots of others bombed out, why? Because they all depended on the shirts. When was the last time you saw a RAW guy open with a weight that buried him to the bench? Or when was the last time you saw 10 out of 56 guys bomb out of 1 competition. Well, it happened at Bench America. 1 out of every 5 guys bombed out and that is a joke. At least with a guy going RAW all men are on equal playing field and may the strongest guy win. There is only 1 thing better than that is RAW with drug testing and then you will really find who is the strongest person in that weight class with integrity through hard work and dedication with any man made chemicals. Equipment is a joke and is making the sport look like a circus.