Thank you very much everyone, very helpful.
I do have to train mostly alone for now but I get my training partner back later.
I see that training in gear is tricky and not ideal with-out a coach or team but I have no choice, and I know for a fact you can still get very strong.
My training partner now has a 500lb raw squat @ 160 training mostly alone in a very simple gym THIS IS STRONGER THAN MOST HERE!
As far as I know that's the best in Australia or close, done in two years.
There are guys that weigh 100 more and can't match that so you do not need to train with a team it's just much better.
Thanks again very helpful!!
You're misunderstanding what everyone is saying.
Training alone isn't a problem at all. It's not ideal, but it certainly can be done.....raw
Training in gear alone is a mistake. Training in multiply gear alone is a super mistake. A lot of us on here have been doing this for a long time and one thing you learn is that when things go wrong in gangster gear, it happens super fast, in the blink of an eye and people get hurt, sometimes even when you have the appropriate safety precautions in place, so doing it alone only increases the risk of getting hurt badly tenfold.
You always have a choice though, just depends on how much you are willing to sacrafice to get it. Most of us who train with big teams often sacrafice time with the family, job, vacation time, lots of money, what have you.
Always better to be safe than sorry though
And don't be mistaken, there are a LOT of 500lb raw squatters on this board
Not to thread hijack but since this thread is already up and running might as well throw it in here. If I am sizing out a new Metal Pro suit and already have a pair of Ace briefs to wear underneath should I be going up an additional size to accommodate for fitting the briefs underneath?
I agree with bell on the safety part of it all...It can def be dangerous and made alot harder by not having anyone around to help...I know/know of a cpl ppl that are really good multi ply lifters that train alone. Chris Hiage(sp?) hes a 275 lifter and is around a 2200 total...does most of his squating alone and from vids looks like he does the same as you with bands to hold boards even with a shirt. His best is 710...I think hes got a 800 squat too. and jason adams..I know him...he doesnt powerlift anymore but trained alone the whole time he did it...he was close to 2k at 198.
I agree with Travis. I wish you the absolute best, but the bottom line is it is dangerous to train in gear by yourself or with minimal/inexperienced spotting.
And yes, your friend has very good raw strength for his size....but that has nothing to do with training in gear alone.
Good luck with whichever route you take!
i know you may not have meant for it to be insulting but to me personally it was. i used to think you were a decent poster but you really sounded pompous.
Don't mean to hijack, but out of the 3 suits Boss, Ace, or Pro, what would he the best to also pull sumo in? I'm at the same point as the OP, but only have cash for 1 suit. Sorry for imposing. Just didn't want to start a new post on same issue.
Brian an ace is really good for sumo
It really was not meant to insult.
I also said I had learnt the shirt on my own and gone from 350 to 525 in a pretty short time, ME not my friend.
I said this to illustrate that you can learn and train in gear with-out a team.
Yes I was leaning towards the ace from the start big deal, people confirmed for me that canvas was a bad idea alone.
Don't ****ing tell me not to ask, if I had not asked I would not have known.
I will hold off on the idea until I at least have my training partner back, no point getting hurt and not being able to train at all.
Thank you everyone for your help.
Just be sure to take some really good safety precautions when training alone in gear. Early on I had a couple of instances in gear where I was trying to get depth in the SQ and kind of "collapsed" because I got out of the groove. Thankfully I had good spotters and everything turned out fine.
I've only had one training partner for the last 3.5 years or so. We are both reasonably experienced in gear and haven't had any big issues. When we go heavy we often hook up some spud straps as a spotting device on the monolift in case something goes wrong. Another thing we sometimes do is put a short box underneath us when we SQ in heavy gear in addition to the spotting straps. This would allow us to sit down on the box and lean forward to get the straps to catch the bar if we miss. We've never had any major incidents, but we put these safety measures in place anyway.