it seems that if an individual is serious about being a bodybuilder then theres no secret to it...you cant come off the hormones..well atleast the test. I just get so tired of hearing people i personally know say theyre gonna blast for say 10 weeks then cruise for 8-10 weeks on a replacement dose. Theyre kidding themselves if they think they are going to keep moving forward. When people do this IMO all theyre doing is taking two steps forward and two steps back. All theyre doing is going back anf forth from point A and B constantly by doing this. i hear people i know bitch about how theyre losing size even though theyre cruising...well yea dickhead you dropped it to a replacement dose your gonna shrink...then when they add the hormones back in they just get to the point where they once were before..then dial it down for a cruise again and think adding in drugs A through Z during the blast is gonna be the "ultimate cycle" and is gonna have to be the answer to get bigger permanantly. The way I see it you have to stay on, cut your cruising time down drastically, or up your cruising dose. Then i get the.."thats ****ing crazy man..you know how unhealthy that is" look....well with all do respect to the pros and competitors on this forum..who the **** do you think your fooling to think the necessities one would have to take to become a big time bodybuilder would be healthy. I am not trying to offend anyone here one bit so please dont take it that way. I know its not the healthiest approach this site usually goes about things but just thought I would throw my opinion out there.