I hope Lumme gets into a car accident today. :)
I hope Lumme gets into a car accident today. :)
Also, to all the Detroit Red Wings fans:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Maybe you chumps will get some comp tickets to disney for getting booted so early, and by the 7th place team! Great consolation prize eh! :D No cup for you!
That's what happens when you sellout....
And easy on Aki and Jyrki........ the Leafs defence looked decent last night.
Those two are the worst defense tandem in the league. I think quinn is great other than his absolute stupidity in continuing to play these fools. They would be a better team with them out of the lineup and not even replaced. Tired good defense are better than fresh sh!tty ones.
My Wings are dying, lol. Those old bastards better turn it around quick. Although the odds are against them, I think only two teams have ever come back from being down 3 games to none.
The Leafs definitly outplayed the Flyers last night and deserved to win but i'm not giving up up yet.Although they have called Philly Choke City PA for as long as I can remember :D
I think i'll have to pull for the Leafs if they win the series as my wife is from that area.
Would be nice to see the Leafs and Ducks in the finals.
Mogilny scratched for tonight.
Corson quit the team.... hmmmmm
not looking good for the Leafs....I hope anyway:D
The Red Wings are gone in 4!!! Swept by the Mighty Ducks!! HAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAHAHHAAHHAH!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! :D
LOL have you watched the last 3 years when the T dot faced the sens????Quote:
Originally posted by Vido
How are they going to get to play the Senators when the Flyers are completely dominating the series? :confused:
Sens fans are scared of Toronto.... and they have good reason to be.
haha Red Wings suck!!!!!!!!!.......go Vancouver Canucks!!
Lol, you won't be able to say much about vancouver soon either.
Wow, what a game last night between the leafs and philly. This is definitely a war. It's funny when we get bonus coverage of all the other games in between periods and such, it seems like there is no intensity or physical play at all compared to the leafs/philly series.
I don't know why it always happens to toronto though, as they usually aren't even that physical a team.
Last night's game was pretty even, despite Philly having about double the number of shots. Each team had so many chances. It pisses me off that Mogilny probably would have been fine to play. I mean, they coulda dressed him as the 20th guy or something, sat him on the bench and just used him on powerplays, or the third overtime when nobody had any energy left to hit.
Oh well, this is definitely a great series of hockey no matter who you are a fan of. Almost got to the 4th overtime last night.
Oh, and I wonder how good detroit feels about their pickup of Cujo this year. :D I bet they'll see Giguere's mocking face everytime they miss a putt golfing this summer. :p
I can't believe the Wings got swept, it sucks. But then again it is quite funny. Looks like the Canucks will be taking an early departure from the playoffs as well.
I'm sure any intelligent Wings fan feels great about signing Cujo.
His GAA is 2.0, good enough to win the Cup most years, and almost identical to Hasek's playoff GAA. Take away all the overtimes that the series had, including the first game, which lasted periods, and the GAA would be even lower (if you can stomach it) for both goalies.
It's not like the Ducks outplayed the Wings during even ONE of those games.
Giguerre was unbeatable, pure and simple. The Wings have 6 guys as good as Paul Kariya, 4 guys that are 80% as good as Paul Kariya, and bunch of guys who would take a bullet to the chest for the leader of Canada.
It's not like David (who had a perceivable skill) beat Goliath or anything. It's not like someone "outplaying" the Yankees or anything.
The Wings outplayed and outhustled the Ducks in every aspect of the game.
This wouldn't be like the Pistons beating the Lakers.
This was a flat-out talentless team sneaking by the most talented team because their goalie, who was already having a great season, got into the famed "zone". It doesn't matter if you have 15 Mario Lemeiuxs on your team, so long as the opponent has a plexiglass wall in front of the net.
Get over it. Hockey, as it is played in the NHL, is flawed and boring. Sure, 80% of it's fans are happy with it the way it is, but Hockey could increase its fan base by 300% if it would just change some simple rules, or at least make it like the Olympics.
I'm not gonna get into this, because I already know I'm right. NHL-brand Hockey isn't even on national broadcast TV, that's how lame it is.
True parity occurs when a league has its talent spread even throughout the teams, like in the NBA, and more recently, the NFL.
That's not the NHL.
What happens in NHL style hockey (compared to Swedish hockey, Olympic hockey, or any european hockey) is that the difference in skating from one end to the other for a genius like Lemieux, can be completely mitigated by someone merely being within 4 feet of him, and slamming his stick into Lemieux's arm (which won't be called). It's ridiculous, stupid, and completely nullifies any perceivable display of talent the league may have.
Congratulations Ducks fans. NHL style Hockey is the only sport where 1 good player can upset a series....enjoy your run. It makes for a great story. Nobody in Detroit has a right to b*tch about getting hosed, because the rules are the same for all of us. We know how the game is played, and have to accept the game for what it is.
so biter, so sad........
Best of luck to my boys...
GO LEAFS GO!!!
Go Canucks Go! Lmao at the wings! ahahahahaha. Burn all your Disney videos wings fans b/c you just got 0WNED by teh ducks!!
A veteran team will beat an inexperienced team 9/10 in the playoffs. Just look at any series in this year's playoffs besides the duck/wings. Veteran teams have been winning the cup for decades now, hell, almost centuries now. They (red wings) bought the cup last yr., Hasek, Robitaille, Hull. How this can be denied, I have no clue. Have a look at team payrolls in the NHL. It is quite obvious. They tried the same this yr, bringing in Joseph and Shneider. Fortunately, they failed.Quote:
Originally posted by Manveet
Vido, I agree with that ****en two line pass. I have Bure's goal on tape from one of the "Don Cherry Rockem Sockem series" It looked like a two line pass to me.
"Nucks last year on the road to their pre-ordered and paid for Stanley Cup"
I hate it when people try to argue this point with the Wings. I agree they have a big payroll compared to alot of NHL teams. But that does not mean they will be any good, look at the NY Rangers. The Wings are a team full of veterans who know what it takes to win.
The Rangers are a team that have tried to do the same thing. That they have failed does not take away from the merits of such an approach. Again, teams winning the SC in the last decade and historically are Veteran teams. They know how to win, and in today's game are PAIDED to win. While I love the NHL and the playoffs there is something sickening about it every year. American teams in big markets win it every year. Surprise? No. Low Canadian dollar, High TV contracts, Higher merchandising sales b/c of bigger sales markets = SC, every year Barnone.
Eventually the NHL needs to realize that hockey is just a game, not a business, as many would have us believe. To bring enjoyment back to the game we need to distribute the wealth among the teams so that every team has an equal shot at Lord Stanley. Call me a socialist, call me an unRealist, but please don't try to hide what is obvious. The American dollar has been the Art Ross trophy winner for years.
I love this game.
Right now I think the NFL is THE example for sports leagues. Every year quite a few of the teams have a legitimate chance of making a run, and every year new teams emerge. The fans of each team know its possible that one year their team will have a chance to win it all.
In the NHL, or MLB, as soon as a small market team starts to emerge as a result of developing young talent, budget restraints force them to deal that talent before local fans can enjoy the fruits of the team's bottom dwelling labour. Sure, there are examples of small market teams that can compete, but the bottom line is, if you want to win you have to have the $$. Colorado, Detroit and Dallas have won 6 of the last 7 stanley cups and they have done so by spending the dollars to keep their current talent while purchasing additional talent. Small market teams just can't follow that formula, and obviously, thats the only formula thats working right now.
In Vancouver, we're just estatic to be able to f-cking KEEP some of the new talent that we have, let alone dream of commiting 32 million in the off season on a veteran free agent, or picking up a 5 mill a year vet at the trade deadline. Thats the difference between teams like Vancouver and Edmonton, and teams like Detroit and St. Louis. In Vancouver we try to develop Naslunds and Bertuzzis, in St.Louis they simply buy Tkachuks and Weights. Edmonton sells Weights and Cujos while Detroit buys Chelios and Cujos.
Personally, I think the key to a healthy league isn't necessarily competitive parity between teams in a league, but the parity of potential between teams. Fans have to know their bottom dwelling/non contender CAN be a contender some day and that their favorite player isn't going to be traded as soon as his contract is up.
Hopefully the new collective bargaining agreement will change things and hopefully Ottawa breaks the trend this year.
The NHL absolutely needs a salary cap. Teams like my Red Wings absolutely need to be reeled back in.....without a doubt.
However, the Wings have superior scouting....this is why they trade.....not "buy"...but TRADE for players (Shanahan, Hasek, etc.).
They're giving away their first round draft picks for All Stars because they know the rest of you numbnuts won't even pick the best players. This is why Zetterberg, Datsyuk, etc. are all better than *most* other teams' first-rounders, even though these guys are low picks.
The only person I can think of that the Wings outright *bought* was Hull. The rest of the guys were all trades. If you're trading with the Wings, and you're not getting the BETTER end of the deal, let alone breaking even, then your respective team is run by idiots.
The team's best players.....Yzerman, Fedorov (literally smuggled out of the World Championships back in 1989), Lidstrom, and the Grind line are all products of the Wings' scouting system.
Chelios, Hasek, Schneider, and Shanahan were all obtained through trades where the OTHER team had the upper-hand.
Also, I believe the Wings' payroll was 4th highest, so it's not like they're the Yankees, and there isn't anyone within 20% of their payroll.
That said, the league is extremely unpopular, can't generate enough revenue to support these exploding salaries, and very badly needs a salary cap.
I feel like puking every time a Canadian team moves or is eliminated.....it's a disgrace to hockey's heritage.......and I'm not even from Canada!
I'm off my soapbox now......
I agree with alot of what you said Majestic, but you forgot to mention Detroit's 8 mill a year? signing of Cujo in the off season. Thats no small potatoes.
They're going to make a salary cap, supposedly.
I think it's funny that the Rangers tried to buy a stanley cup winning team, but look, they're not even in the ****ing playoffs.
Woot. ALMO is back for the TO-Philly game tonight. I think they could have dressed him last game. With Eddie the Eagle playing as well as he is, Alexander Mogilny back in the lineup, and Phil Housley starting to play good defence, the Leafs are a shoe in for the next round *knocks on wood*
.....erm.....right, and they overpaid Joseph, but they also didn't re-sign some people from last year, so it's not like their payroll went up by 8 mill.
They traded for Hasek, I repeat TRADED for Hasek (i.e. the Wings were desperate, so Buffalo had the upper hand, and should've been smart), and took on his gargantuan salary. Then he left, and we replaced him with another model.
Look, even if the Wings cut their payroll by 30%, they'd still be better than most other franchises. You could cut 25 million just by cutting Cujo, Chelios, Fedorov, and Lidstrom. You'd still have the best captain in the league (Yzerman), all of the Grind line (McCarty, Draper, Dandenault, etc.), and Legace in goal.
That's 4 guys out of 16 guys with heavy icetime. I guarantee you the remaining 12 are better than every other squad in the LEAGUE except for maybe 5 others. Legace is/will be better in goal than all but maybe 8 guys in the league. Not shabby for a guy making $5 an hour.
The other teams simply don't know how to scout. That's why our late rounders are better than other teams' first rounders.
The Wings spent wisely.....their early exit had *little* to do with idiot players, and more to do with NHL rules and a goalie who got into a psychotic groove.
The teams that are the problem are guys like the Hurricanes, who wanted to pay Fedorov a trillion dollars, and the Rangers, who'll sign any big name to their team, regardless of chemistry issues. (Have another drink, Fleury.)
Anyway, I'm not denying that the Wings "spend to win".
The league needs a cap, period. I hope the owners tough it out for as long as it takes to get a "hard cap" like the NFL has, and not a "soft cap" like the NBA has.
The future of the league depends on it.
In my opinion, they also need rules that allow talented players to flourish even more than they already do. So long as there is a cap, and the talented players are spread fairly evenly (ala the NFL), the league will stay interesting.
Originally posted by ElPietro
Lol, you won't be able to say much about vancouver soon either.
GO VANCOUVER!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Ducks Sweeped Wings....funniest thing of all time.
We Win!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!!