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steel 12-09-2004 10:06 AM

novedex or nolvedex?
 
I am looking at purchasing an anti-aromatase supplement called Novedex Xtreme and made by Gaspari. But I keep seeing everybody talk about Nolvedex which is a product I can't find anywhere. Is there a difference?
thanks,

SpecialK 12-09-2004 10:15 AM

Yes, nolvadex is a prescription drug and is most likely stronger than novadex extreme, which is probably just using a similar name to make people think it's the real thing. You can get nolvadex from:

www.customnutritionwarehouse.com
www.ancillaryguys.com

although I think CNW is out at the moment.

ryuage 12-09-2004 10:16 AM

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steel 12-09-2004 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecialK
Yes, nolvadex is a prescription drug and is most likely stronger than novadex extreme, which is probably just using a similar name to make people think it's the real thing. You can get nolvadex from:

www.customnutritionwarehouse.com
www.ancillaryguys.com

although I think CNW is out at the moment.

Ok still a bit confused. The nolvadex sells for $55. for only 30ml. Is this meant to have on hand incase something goes wrong or is it meant to be taken at a certain point. And if it meant to be taken then how big of a serving size are we talking about? Also on the other site the only thing they had was 6OXO which comes in pill form and is much cheaper. What is it that is truly needed for a cycle of M-one-T?

SpecialK 12-09-2004 12:16 PM

How long is your cycle? For a 4 week cycle of M1T, a lot of people do for PCT:

week 1-2: 40mg ED
week 3-4: 20mg ED

SpecialK 12-09-2004 12:25 PM

OK, here is a place that has it in stock, $21 for 60mL, 20mg/mL:

http://www.ibenutrition.com/aqs.htm

ryuage 12-09-2004 12:28 PM

you have a lot more reading to do before you jump into doing your m1t cycle but yes it should be in posession just in case and for pct.

steel 12-09-2004 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecialK
How long is your cycle? For a 4 week cycle of M1T, a lot of people do for PCT:

week 1-2: 40mg ED
week 3-4: 20mg ED

I currently have three 90 capsule bottles of M-1-T. I have not started using it and perhaps never will, depending on what kind of results I get from Creatine and Tribex. On the M-1-T bottles it says to not use them for more than 3 consecutive weeks and then to take a 4 week break. It also said to take 2 capsules a day, which means that there is enough in a bottle for 2, 3 week sessions. I have no intentions of exceeding the recomendations. So therefore I have enough for 18 weeks on and 24 weeks off during that time period. For the off time its my understanding that tribulus (tribex) and Creatine will suffice and perhaps some for of anti-aromatase, such as 6OXO or Novedex.
Its clear how much M-1-t I would need and how much tribex or Creatine I would need. However, its NOT clear how much anti-aromatase I would need, or if 60x0 or gaspari novedex (not nolvadex) can serve this purpose. And finally its not clear if I would need anything on hand for an emergency. From what I have read so far, it appears as if M-1-T is not likely to cause an emergency. I read that 4AD would be more likely to cause a problem because it is a precursor to dianabol. Am I misreading something?
thanks,

SpecialK 12-09-2004 02:50 PM

First of all, most people start with 10mg ED, not 20, which would be 2 capsules like your bottle indicates. If they don't respond and don't have bad sides they may bump it up to 20.

Second, I wouldn't be so sure that M1T couldn't cause an emergency, read this:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showt...hlight=lactate

That may be an extreme example, but most people in the thread advised him he should have had nolva on hand, which he did not. If you are going to run M1T I think most people will suggest you have nolva. Just get it from IBE Labs, that link I posted. It's only $21 and 1 bottle should be sufficient for PCT.

steel 12-09-2004 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpecialK
First of all, most people start with 10mg ED, not 20, which would be 2 capsules like your bottle indicates. If they don't respond and don't have bad sides they may bump it up to 20.

Second, I wouldn't be so sure that M1T couldn't cause an emergency, read this:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showt...hlight=lactate

That may be an extreme example, but most people in the thread advised him he should have had nolva on hand, which he did not. If you are going to run M1T I think most people will suggest you have nolva. Just get it from IBE Labs, that link I posted. It's only $21 and 1 bottle should be sufficient for PCT.

thanks,
one last question, is nolvadex taken orally?

TBone4Eva 12-09-2004 04:24 PM

Yes, it's taken orally. If you buy it in liquid form they usually give you a oral syringe so you can measure it out.

Ace7644 12-25-2004 09:12 PM

i know this thread is kind of old but do any of you people out there know if all forms of nolva listed above are taken orally or are some of them injectable?

Shao-LiN 12-26-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel
I currently have three 90 capsule bottles of M-1-T. I have not started using it and perhaps never will, depending on what kind of results I get from Creatine and Tribex. On the M-1-T bottles it says to not use them for more than 3 consecutive weeks and then to take a 4 week break. It also said to take 2 capsules a day, which means that there is enough in a bottle for 2, 3 week sessions. I have no intentions of exceeding the recomendations. So therefore I have enough for 18 weeks on and 24 weeks off during that time period. For the off time its my understanding that tribulus (tribex) and Creatine will suffice and perhaps some for of anti-aromatase, such as 6OXO or Novedex.
Its clear how much M-1-t I would need and how much tribex or Creatine I would need. However, its NOT clear how much anti-aromatase I would need, or if 60x0 or gaspari novedex (not nolvadex) can serve this purpose. And finally its not clear if I would need anything on hand for an emergency. From what I have read so far, it appears as if M-1-T is not likely to cause an emergency. I read that 4AD would be more likely to cause a problem because it is a precursor to dianabol. Am I misreading something?
thanks,

M1T is a pretty strong PH. I'd say it is pretty damn likely to cause problems, and also has the chance for most sides.

wannagetbig2001 02-21-2005 01:04 PM

great thread - I just wish I had seen this earlier - I also thought the Gispari Nova was the NOLVA - damn!!!! oh well - I'll do a hell of allot more serches in the comming months !

Now I need to figure out whaht the hell to do with the GISPARI product!

Dirt 02-23-2005 05:27 AM

This thread reminds me why I'm glad PHs are illegal now...

Holto 02-23-2005 09:28 AM

so true D


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