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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

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    No shirt

    Does anybody know a good bench routine for a raw bencher?

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    What is a raw bencher???
    Bench....425.....225 x 36
    squat.....550
    deadlift..490
    pull-ups..22

    weight.....252lbs
    bodyfat....12%

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    read "bench like a stripper" by jim wendler on elitefts.com as a good starting point

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    read up on vdizenzo's training log. if i can remember, hes pressing over 550lb raw
    i been copying portions of his bench workouts and so far my bench is improving. i have my own log as well


    boards are essential

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtteg_x View Post
    read up on vdizenzo's training log. if i can remember, hes pressing over 550lb raw
    i been copying portions of his bench workouts and so far my bench is improving. i have my own log as well


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    Hey, that's 600lbs in a competition buddy! I'm flattered you copied some stuff from my log. My training cycle for the raw meet went very well. A good portion of it should be up. I fell off the wagon for a bit on keeping track.

    I'm going to get back to my log as I prepare for an equipped contest in the fall.

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    I hate it when people sweat up the bench because they don't wear a shirt!! EEEWWW!
    A child does not learn to squat from the top down. In other words, he does not suddenly make a conscious decision one day to squat. Actually, he is squatting one day and make the conscious decision to stand. Squatting precedes standing in the developmental sequence. This is the way a child's brain learns to use the body as the child develops movement patterns. Therefore, a child is probably crawling, rocks back into a squatting position with the back completely relaxed and the hips completely flexed, and stands when he has enough hip strength. This approach makes a lot of sense and can be applied to relearning the deep squat movement if it is lost. -Gray Cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    Hey, that's 600lbs in a competition buddy! I'm flattered you copied some stuff from my log. My training cycle for the raw meet went very well. A good portion of it should be up. I fell off the wagon for a bit on keeping track.

    I'm going to get back to my log as I prepare for an equipped contest in the fall.

    good thing i said "over 550". thanks for posting your log:evillaugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigtymer View Post
    What is a raw bencher???
    benching without a bench shirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sensei View Post
    I hate it when people sweat up the bench because they don't wear a shirt!! EEEWWW!
    Hah!



    Shoulder country for the raw benchies, Jim's article is great.

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    Where is vdizenzo's training log for the raw meet I can't find it?......probably not looking in the right place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchaholic777 View Post
    Where is vdizenzo's training log for the raw meet I can't find it?......probably not looking in the right place.
    There is a sticky at the top of the powerlfting forum for the pl journals. Click that and it will take you there. This is a direct link http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?t=91951

    You'll see changes in my training. I am a very instinctive trainer. I also get lots of help from Rhodes. Feel free to ask my questions. Good luck.

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    Thanks

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    What is DE Bench, and ME Bench mean?

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    DE is dynamic effort=speed bench on bench day. ME is max effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    DE is dynamic effort=speed bench on bench day. ME is max effort.
    10-4, thanks again. I'm sure you guys get tired of answering the same old questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benchaholic777 View Post
    10-4, thanks again. I'm sure you guys get tired of answering the same old questions.
    No problem. We all started somewhere.

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    where are you at and what are your goals?
    I train for raw, if you want you can look at my journal, i am trying to get 405@ 165lb BW. I do allot of high volume stuff though, cause i found that it works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokinHawk View Post
    where are you at and what are your goals?
    I train for raw, if you want you can look at my journal, i am trying to get 405@ 165lb BW. I do allot of high volume stuff though, cause i found that it works for me.
    My BW is 210 now (tryin to get to 190). I have been as high as 385 but I was off for 5 months b/c of work. I haven't maxed since I've been back but I have gotten 325 1 time. My goal is 405 @ 190 by Christmas.

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