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Barry Bonds just hit #756*.
Bad day for baseball.
Last edited by yankeekd25; 08-08-2007 at 08:33 PM.
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Why is it a bad day? He is one of the best to ever play the game.
No one has ever shown he broke any rules in baseball.
The 'bad' thing is how baseball fans and writers are reacting, like he and Mcguire are the only two people who might have used steroids.
Why doesn't anyone ask if Cal Ripken used?
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If he's on gear, he's absolutely terrible at following a training and diet regimen.
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why do you say that? you have no idea what his diet and training regimen are like. using gear doesn't automatically make you a 300lb, ripped monster. i'm sure he couldn't care less about his appearance.
i agree with you, paul. no one has proven anything. i'm sick of hearing people bitch about bonds. he's one of the greatest to play the game, period.
Last edited by RBB; 08-08-2007 at 07:16 AM.
Barry has not been proven guilty of anything and I'm pretty sure 99% of baseball players are juiced to the gills.
Still. Arod will break the record.
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Belial in reference to Ronnie Coleman, "Some people say he still has blood in his steroid stream, but I doubt it. Gas isn't one of the side effects, but that massive bloated overly muscular freak of nature circus sideshow appearance might be what tips most people off."
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well then we're on the same page. yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion, thank you for stating the very obvious. the point is, nobody has any proof of anything, yet many continue to complain. i just don't get it. i'm sure if you dig into it, many pro athletes have done questionable things. why don't we bring every record beaking athlete into question?
On Mike & Mike in the Morning, people called in expressing their opinion of Bonds. One guy summed it up, "he is an @$$hole, he is a cheater of baseball, his taxes, and his wife". The other guy said baseball deserved it. Then this other moron said that Bonds is better than Griffey Jr. ever was. I LOL after hearing that. I guess people forget how smooth as silk Griffey was when he hit HR's without being on steroids and looking like a monster.
Baseball can only pray that Alex or Ken can break the record in a few years or baseball will become like professional bicycling - a disrespected and broken sport.
For those that still deny his use because it was never proven, it may never be proven. Only idiots like Palmero use steroids that can be detected. One reason Palmero won't make it to the Hall of Fame is that he is so stupid. The best and smartest users are using drugs that can't be detected.
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Height: 6'0"; BW: 202lbs; Age: 24; BF: ~11%
155lbs [07-01-06] 176lbs [09-14-06] 179lbs [09-21-06] 182lbs [10-02-06] 184lbs [10-18-06] 186lbs [10-23-06] 187lbs [11-08-06] 189lbs [11-19-06] 190lbs [11-21-06] 191lbs [12-21-06] 194lbs [12-31-06]
Bench: 250lbs; Squat: 350lbs lbs; Deadlift: 430 lbs
Military: 111lbsx8; Dips: BWx30; Pullups: BWx10; WChestP: 360lbsx7; 45LegP: 470lbsx20; C Raise: 360lbs; BB Curl: 105lbsx3; Lat Pull: 195lbsx5
PRs: 655/525/645 = 1825 Total
Meet PRs: Bench Only 525
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I don't care if bonds was on pixie sticks. If he broke the god damned record then let him have his glory. Do you KNOW how HARD it is to hit that many home runs no matter what the **** you're on?
Steroids may have helped but they didn't ****ing swing the bat for barry. It took alot of skill, practice and effort. Leave him alone. Give him the record he deserves.
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wow this thread is useless without video. Here ya go:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Er8Ws1Ttx_E
as much as I don't like him as a person, I'll still give him props for doing what he did. Steroids or not, not many, if any will every be close to that record.
LOL I just noticed the * on the thread title. hahahaha
Last edited by Cirino83; 08-08-2007 at 08:39 AM.
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agree. it takes pure talent to hit homeruns like he does. I like what jordan said steroids didnt swing the bat.
Arod will probley break this record though.
I dont like the guy and i really dont care about baseball unless im at the game or when it comes to the playoffs. So im going to leave now
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supplements are used to supplement!!
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Using "performance enhancers" is cheating. Proven or not, Barry Bonds is a cheater. Numbers don't lie. Barry Bonds had never hit more than 46 homers in a season and suddenly he hits 73 in 2001??? They even said on ESPN that his head size grew over the years and that the only way that was possible is if he took HGH or he had Andre the Giant's condition known as acromegaly,where basically the pituitary produces extra HGH. Come on... Barry had been playing since the '80s and we never heard about him having any condition.
Sure Bonds is a terrific, terrific ball player. However, the drugs made him a Super-Superstar who seems to be above the game because he cheated. Sure there are a lot of other things you need to hit a baseball over the wall756 times, however the drugs made it that much easier. Because of guys like Canseco, Palmiero, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Giambi, and Sheffield there will always be a cloud of suspicion over America's Sport. Bonds has displayed a great lesson. Cheat and become the owner of baseball's most sacred record. Disgraceful.
The only thing I can hope for is that A-Rod breaks the record. This way a true ballplayer will break the record of 755 home runs and not 756* and counting. As for Griffey, you gotta feel for him. The sweetest swing in baseball. Nothing but bad luck for Griff. It shoulda been Griffey breaking the record.
Bonds does not deserve to have his name higher than the likes of Willie Mays, the Babe and Hank Aaron on the list.
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i just watched the video. isnt that a delay of game or something haha. i mean its a great thing but there is still a game going on.
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Why is using steroids cheating?
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Up until 2003, it wasn't. Barry Bonds has never tested positive for a banned substance, and even if he comes out and says that up until 4 years ago he was on 5 grams a day, it doesn't matter, because using steroids was not against the rules.
Ergo, no asterisk by his record.
Edit: fixed timeline.
Last edited by Paul Stagg; 08-08-2007 at 10:08 AM.
Squats work better than supplements.
"You know, if I thought like that, I'd never put more than one plate on the bar for anything, I'd never use bands or chains, I'd never squat to parallel or below, and I'd never let out the slightest grunt when I lift. At some point in your lifting career (assuming you're planning on getting reasonably strong and big), you're going to have to accept that most people think you are some kind of freak." -Sensei
"You're wrong, and I have a completely irrelevant pubmed abstract that may or may not say so." - Belial
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