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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    Anyone plan on buying this?


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    You should buy it for me, it would be a nice birthday gift.
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    seriously though, it looks like an intresting read
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    I'll probably eventually pick it up. All Lyle's books are awesome reads, although some disagree seeing he isn't huge, move big weights and didn't practice what he preached.

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    Yeah, I am. Looks like a good read, just like the rest of his books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirino83 View Post
    I'll probably eventually pick it up. All Lyle's books are awesome reads, although some disagree seeing he isn't huge, move big weights and didn't practice what he preached.
    I agree. Little people can't tell big people how to get big. Depending on how thick the book is, I might be able to use it when I board press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    I agree. Little people can't tell big people how to get big. Depending on how thick the book is, I might be able to use it when I board press.
    So all the pencil-neck nerdy lab-rat scientist dorks who actually figured out what protein does way back when should not pass that on to the guys who could use that to their benefit?


    Lyle was/is training to be an olympic speed skater.

    He also competed in powerlifting in the past, I believe.
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    I can tell a big guy how to get bigger - eat lots of stuff, and lift lots of heavy things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Schaedle View Post
    So all the pencil-neck nerdy lab-rat scientist dorks who actually figured out what protein does way back when should not pass that on to the guys who could use that to their benefit?


    Lyle was/is training to be an olympic speed skater.

    He also competed in powerlifting in the past, I believe.
    Everybody in weightlifting knows to eat lots of protein. We all know that protein is the building block of muscle. We all know that you should get at least your bodyweight in grams per day. Why wouldn't you spend that time figuring out your training plan or goals? Why wouldn't you spend that time training? Do what you will with my board press book. When I get a tidbit of good info, I use it. The world loves to make this stuff harder than it really is.

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    Probably next month. I already bought two books, and have plenty of other stuff to read in the meantime.
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    I am going to buy that now that i know it exists!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    Everybody in weightlifting knows to eat lots of protein. We all know that protein is the building block of muscle. We all know that you should get at least your bodyweight in grams per day.
    Which you wouldn't know if it wasn't for the pencil-neck nerdy lab-rat scientist dorks who figured it out in the forst place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSpikeyThing View Post
    Which you wouldn't know if it wasn't for the pencil-neck nerdy lab-rat scientist dorks who figured it out in the forst place.
    i actually listened to the jacked up guys in my gym when I was a kid. That pratice seems to be lost nowadays.

    Read the book written by George Hackenschmidt. I forget the name of it. I'll look for it and try to post the link. Back in 1907 he wrote stuff that people seem to think is groundbreaking today. Pencil-neck geeks are cool, because I was one. But, they have no place in weightlifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    Pencil-neck geeks are cool, because I was one. But, they have no place in weightlifting.
    How about the docs that repair and rehab mangled knees, yet who have never stepped under the rack themsleves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    Pencil-neck geeks are cool, because I was one. But, they have no place in weightlifting.
    Do you use Nitrean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    Pencil-neck geeks are cool, because I was one. But, they have no place in weightlifting.
    I'd have to disagree with you on that one. How many head NFL or NCAA even made it to the pro's, and for a lot of them even was a starter in college? Bobby Bowden was a scrub player, Mike Riley sat on the bench at Alabama, Mike Holmgren never played a down in the NFL. Yet these men can teach and understand football like no other. I think a similar analogy can be used to lifting weights.

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    I've already ordered it.

    The ignorance displayed in this thread is why I only come here to kill time at work. Why make things complicated by reading a book when you are a moron....I agree completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    i actually listened to the jacked up guys in my gym when I was a kid. That pratice seems to be lost nowadays.
    and how the crap do you think they learned?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapour Trails View Post
    I've already ordered it.

    The ignorance displayed in this thread is why I only come here to kill time at work. Why make things complicated by reading a book when you are a moron....I agree completely.
    Makes ya appreciate the discussions on Lyle's site so much more, doesn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Schaedle View Post
    How about the docs that repair and rehab mangled knees, yet who have never stepped under the rack themsleves?
    It's unrelated. The doc is the master of fixing the body. Not lifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyK View Post
    I'd have to disagree with you on that one. How many head NFL or NCAA even made it to the pro's, and for a lot of them even was a starter in college? Bobby Bowden was a scrub player, Mike Riley sat on the bench at Alabama, Mike Holmgren never played a down in the NFL. Yet these men can teach and understand football like no other. I think a similar analogy can be used to lifting weights.
    Football and weightlifting are 2 different animals. Teaching football and playing it are completely different. i see where you're going, but having played and coached, it's completely different than lifting, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torrok View Post
    and how the crap do you think they learned?????
    I'm pretty sure 100 years ago, when George Hackenschmidt rote a graet book, docs weren't doing studies on protein affects on the weightlifter. Good ole George actuall ymade a comment similar to mine. People who haven't done it have no right to talk about it. I'll find the quote. It's good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapour Trails View Post
    I've already ordered it.

    The ignorance displayed in this thread is why I only come here to kill time at work. Why make things complicated by reading a book when you are a moron....I agree completely.
    The only ignorance being displayed is by those that make eating out to be more than it is.

    The reason I keep things so simple, is because most of us on here, if not all of us, are not even close to a level where absolute nutrtional precision is needed. It's like starting a rock band and not having a bass, drums, or lead guitar. You all want to use the bells and whistles before you have the foundation set in motion. Bells and whistles sound pretty stupid without the bass, drums, and lead guitar. But, I guess that's too easy to understand so we should over-complicate it some more.

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    Is that all you do is strike up bull**** in every thread? Is this going to turn into pages of you asking what everyone's experience is and telling them how awesome you are while simultaneously giving utterly stupid examples about rock bands to try and restate the same thing you're saying in almost every single thread? Could you perhaps start up your own thread stating your experiences and actually adding something to this community? You're an experienced powerlifter. Start stemming from there, but quit saying the same **** about you and your accomplishments and how everyone is inferior to you. It's quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen hit these forums in years.

    All Slim did was ask who's going to get the book stated in the original post. What did you do? You blew the train off its track with the nuke known as your ego.

    What's your opinion on Lyle, Rhodes?


    The only ignorance being displayed is by those that make eating out to be more than it is.
    You seem to be the only one who has issues with everyone's diet. You're not adding anything. We already know eating big makes you big. There's stickies with diets dedicated to eating a bunch of food to get big. I'm sure you'll stumble upon it if you spent your time searching this site. You'll realize you've said nothing new that we don't already know. No wait, I'll just post a link because I know you won't search ~> The Big Boy's Menu Plan

    Gee, your "advice" seems pretty much like...nothing new? So quit saying the crap we already know in every thread. The motto here for years has seemed to be "eat big and lift heavy". Where does your advice fit into this that provides anything groundbreaking? Hint: nowhere.


    I agree. Little people can't tell big people how to get big. Depending on how thick the book is, I might be able to use it when I board press.
    You're so clueless that you didn't even realize that his statement was sarcastic bait for you to respond...and you took the bait like the predictable fish you are. He was kidding. It's like all you're doing is finding posts to say the same thing over and over again. Is that all you do here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    Football and weightlifting are 2 different animals. Teaching football and playing it are completely different. i see where you're going, but having played and coached, it's completely different than lifting, IMO.
    Have you ever been coached by, listened to, or learned anything from anyone who has not squatted 1000 pounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim Schaedle View Post
    Have you ever been coached by, listened to, or learned anything from anyone who has not squatted 1000 pounds?
    Actually, the 4 guys that have helped me the most were Louie Simmons (920), Dave Tate (935), Jim Wendler (1000), Teddy Forbes (1008). When Louie and Dave squatted those numbers, there were an handful of people who had ever squatted 1000. As a matter of fact, my best is 930. The 1000 was called high. So, I guess only Louie has squatted less than me in competition.

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