Is there any advantage to doing barbell bent rows as opposed to machine bent rows.
wow...machines are dumb, they dont even work nearly as many muslces as free weights. why would you want to do machine anyway?
Hey, don't knock T-bar rows. They're a legit exercise, and even the free-weights-only guys know that.
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I never implied that he has inuries, or should choose machines over free weight barbell row.
Please read more closely.
Torrok, if you are rowing 300lbs free weight and then doing ME deadlift work a few days later, the rows will certainly play a role in how strong your deads will be.
There is a reason why the Westside template calls for chest-supported rows.
Last edited by Slim Schaedle; 03-12-2008 at 05:22 PM.
Torrok, it is not as easy as that. Do some research about westside and any other periodization that is designed to increase your poundage.
Last edited by ZenMonkey; 03-12-2008 at 08:19 PM.
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I do heavy rack pulls and have trouble keeping my lower back in good form while doing bent rows right after. It can be really taxing on your back to try to hold up the weight like that for so long. Sometimes I'll do machine rows or cable rows just so I can really hit lats as hard as I want.
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Cables shouldn't be grouped with "machines".
The original question I believe was,The question itself is confusing, because depending on what you're going for, the word advantage is misused. Believe it or not, fellas, some of the members here aren't powerlifters and don't necessarily care about "periodization" and increasing poundage. If you're lifting for size, like pumping up your rear delts and upper traps, by all means use the machine. It allows you to go a lot heavier than you could with traditional unassisted bent over rows, and offers a lot of isolation as well. Even for people who go for strength over looks (such as myself) could benefit from this machine because of its stabilization. With that sead, it's also good to mix things up. For instance, I don't have a t-bar machine in my gym, but I wish I did because close grip and wide grip cable rows get old, and I don't do bent over rows because I deadlift heavily, so there's no point in my mind. Every machine in the gym has its purpose, and benefit for somebody."Is there any advantage to doing barbell bent rows as opposed to machine bent rows."
Great read on the 10 top ten myths of Bodybuilding nutrition by Dave Barr (T-Nation).
A poster metioned that machines are dumb, and the example of powerlifters, etc. was used, by myself, in support of machine use as an example, b/c it was asked why someone would want to use machines anyway.
Good points on the other stuff.
Last edited by Slim Schaedle; 03-13-2008 at 01:46 PM.
And you should care about periodization and increasing poundage, because almost every routine incorporates it. And who the hell wants to be big and weak?
Last edited by ZenMonkey; 03-13-2008 at 02:18 PM.
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