My diet...critique

[Life4ever]

Chris, from your opinon, if you were going to have carbs before your workout, opposed to a fat source like UDOS.. which one would give you MORE engery during lifting?

[chris mason]

Considering that fat takes a long time to fully digest, it would be foolish to eat fats before training. I don't know what a UDOS is. Fats provide more energy per gram (9 kcals vs. 4) than carbs. A diet with 15-20% fat is perfectly acceptable, you could probably go even a little higher if you do a fair amount of endurance training. I have a difficult time discerning if you are asking me questions to be sarcastic or if you really want advice. Please let me know. If you are sincere, I have no problem talking to you. I certainly don't think I know everything, but I think I know a lot more than the average bodybuilder. I also try to verify everything I say and am careful not to delve into topics I don't know much about.

[Life4ever]

Chris, im not sarcasticing you, I just like hearing other peoples arguments and viewpoints, it makes things interesting. UDO is fat source made by UDO eramaus.

[chris mason]

Originally posted by Life4ever
Chris, im not sarcasticing you, I just like hearing other peoples arguments and viewpoints, it makes things interesting. UDO is fat source made by UDO eramaus.

What is that?

[Life4ever]

UDO's is perfected oil blend specially balanced combination oarefully natural and unrefined oils....it contains omega-3 fatty acids, omega-6 fatty acids, and omega-9 fatty acids, there a lot more ingredients in this.

[chris mason]

Paul----

The following are some excerpts from the paper I mentioned (by Mark A. Jenkins M.D.)in my previous posts:

American Journal of Cardiology (Am J Cardiol 1992;69:440-444), diabetic patients (NIDDM), insulin resistant patients, and normal controls were started a 3 week program of diet ( 75 - 80% carbohydrate, 10-15% protein, and <10% fat) and exercise. In all there were statistically significant reductions in blood pressure, insulin levels, and triglycerides. Additionally, high-carbohydrate / high-fiber diets have been shown to lower cholesterol and may reduce the risk of colon cancer.

CONCLUSION

Hyperinsulinemia is a marker for several disease, and carbohydrate ingestion causes the release of insulin, but high carbohydrate ingestion does not cause hyperinsulinemia. The reason that the "if x=y and y=z, therefore x=z" argument doesn't work is because the problem is the insulin receptor. We are dealing with a biological organism that is extremely complex. There are more variables than meets the eye, and controlled scientific analysis of the situation reveals that a high complex carbohydrate diet lowers insulin levels. Regular aerobic exercise also enhances insulin receptor sensitivity and is protective against the development of atherosclerotic disease. I did not have to dig deeply into the medical literature to find the above information. There is a tremendous amount of information published from the U.S., Europe, and Japan about the benefits of high-carbohydrate/high-fiber diets. Likewise, there are volumes of data about the increased risk for insulin resistance, hypertension, atherosclerotic disease and some forms of cancer associated with high fat diets. These studies are the work of researchers and clinicians in many disciplines and have been conducted in a scientific manner. I could not find any evidence to support a 40% carbo/ 30%/30% diet as healthier or better for athletes. In fact, I uncovered the exact opposite of what we have heard advertised about the 40/30/30 plan. Perhaps scientific data will emerge in the future, but there currently is no scientific support for this diet plan in athletes or in sedentary individuals.

I don't expect anyone to take my word for it. In fact I encourage you to read the literature for yourself. Some of it is a bit technical but from the questions asked in this newsgroup, I think that most can digest this info. I have included a partial list of references that should serve as a starting point. In preparing this discussion, I took neither a "for" or "against" viewpoint. I was intrigued by the claims, have had patients and fellow triathletes ask me, and was just plain curious. In constructing this discussion, I simply performed a computer aided search of the medical literature and read what I found. Why am I qualified to discuss this subject? I am a board-certified general internist and am in my 5th year of clinical practice. I have treated many patients with diabetes, hypertension, and atherosclerotic disease. Currently, I am at Rice University where I serve as the Associate Director of the student health service and a team physician for the NCAA sports. I am also an athlete -- I swam NCAAs in college and have been competing in triathlons since 1987. Good health to all.

Selected references.

1. Insulin Resistance -- Not Hyperinsulinemia -- Is Pathogenic in Essential Hypertension. (Med. Hypothesis. 1994 42, 226-236)

2. Role of Diet and Exercise in the Management of Hyperinsulinemia and Associated Atherosclerotic Risk Factors. (Am J Cardiology 1992:69:440-444)

3. Insulin resistance, hyperinsulinemia, and cardiovascular disease. The need for novel dietary prevention strategies. (Basic Research in Cardiology. 1992. 87:99-105)

4. High-carbohydrate, high-fiber diets increase peripheral insulin sensitivity in healthy young and old adults. (Am J of Clinical Nutrition. 1990 ; 52:524-8)

5. Exercise Physiology: Energy, Nutrition and Human Performance. McArdle, Katch and Katch. 3rd Edition. Lea Febiger Publishers. 1991. (ISBN 0-8121-1351-9)

6. Cecil: Textbook of Medicine. Wyngaarden/Smith/Bennett. 1992. (ISBN 0-7216-2928-8)

7. Persistence of Multiple Cardiovascular Risk Clustering Related to Syndrome X From Childhood to young Adulthood: The Bogalusa Heart Study. (Archives of Internal Medicine. Vol. 154, Aug 22, 1994.)