Something I've noticed

[BFGUITAR]

I am helping 3 people with their working out. All of them will listen to me in the gym but for some reason will not put in the effort to eat a lot of food. Has anyone ever noticed this? They are losing out on 50% of the battle!

[Reko]

Thats because everyone eats a ton! Don't you get it? They cant POSSIBLY eat any more!

/making fun of said people.

[ryuage]

oh well?

[Travis Bell]

I've had this problem before and there is nothing you can do but lead by example

[youngguns]

well, let them keep failing until they realize they CAN eat more. thats what had to happen to me, and now my bulk is ACTUALLY looking like a bulk.

[berfles]

Eating is by far the harder part for me. Lifting the weights is easy compared to it. I struggle every day to eat 6000 calories, but it's working and I should be over 180lbs for the first time in my life this Saturday. When I joined here I think I was 150ish.

[Keith]

You make A LOT of threads, eh? LOL. I'd say they're missing out on more than 50% of the battle. Training in the gym is fun and the easier part, it's what you do in the kitchen that's hard, boring and tedious. Not too difficult to understand.

[Hazerboy]

I trained 6 guys over the course of the school year. One was an elite high school swimmer who swam a mile faster than most people can run it. Another played football in high school, third kid fenced and played frisbee competitively, another was a physics major, then a soccer player last one was russian. My point is they all knew how to bust their ass in the gym, but still none of them gained a pound cause they couldn't eat enough (actually i think the swimmer gained like 10 lbs but that was it).


None of them lift weights anymore.

This year i'm not training ANYONE (except maybe my girlfriend, caues then I could reap the benefits too XD) . I'm sick of wasting my time with people who won't put in the effort in and out of the weight room.

Your guys probably won't continue lifting weights if they don't gain any weight. Most people don't start lifting with visions of lifting huge at their current weight, everyone wants to put on at least a few pounds in the beginning (except for certain athletes).

My advice to you? GET THEM TO EAT! putting on muscle is one of the biggest motivating factors. Take 'em to the buffet after a session and show 'em how its DONE!

[pottsy07]

i take it all of your friends are ectomorphs?? this means they can eat aload without putting on a pound?? sometimes i wish i was like that lol oj :P, maybe theirs stomachs are not strong enough to take that much food and they feel sick, get them to buy a weight gaining supplement such as mammoth 2500, or if they are on a budget they could make their own weight gainer using a scoop of whey protein, a banana, a scoop of oatmeal and milk?? this may work wonders for them as drinking calories is easier than eating them??

timmy

[40 Nunc]

I am helping 3 people with their working out. All of them will listen to me in the gym but for some reason will not put in the effort to eat a lot of food. Has anyone ever noticed this? They are losing out on 50% of the battle!

Isn't there a magic pill out that will make them big and strong?

I'm not at the level to train someone but I work out with the same type of people you're talking about. They have a new magic pill or diet or supplement or drink or workout or some other secret weapon they saw on the internet... Never consistent with anything for more than a week and upset when they don't see results.

[Shouji]

I find myself barely able to eat 2000 calories of solid food, I pretty much HAVE to encorperate shakes into my diet.

[essentialherb08]

I've had this problem before and there is nothing you can do but lead by example

I havn't had this problem before but to show people how critical diet is leading by example is about the only way to go.

[Brad08]

something I've noticed is that the people who worry and fret about what to eat, how much to eat, etc., are usually very small and very weak

[Hazerboy]

something I've noticed is that the people who worry and fret about what to eat, how much to eat, etc., are usually very small and very weak

Tell that to built or Rhodehouse.

[Brad08]

Tell that to built or Rhodehouse.

Something tells me they ain't worryin about how much to eat, when to eat, etc., like all the skinny weaklings here are, which was my point.

[Keith]

Something tells me they ain't worryin about how much to eat, when to eat, etc., like all the skinny weaklings here are, which was my point.

They do, though. Built, at least. Not a lot of powerlifters care that much about nutrient timing, but when it comes down to keeping a relatively low body fat %, these details have to be considered.

[BigTallOx]

I am helping 3 people with their working out. All of them will listen to me in the gym but for some reason will not put in the effort to eat a lot of food. Has anyone ever noticed this? They are losing out on 50% of the battle!

I'll never understand people not liking to eat. Everybody is sooooo afraid of putting on a few pounds of fat. IMHO, you have to to build muscle/strength.

[berfles]

I'll never understand people not liking to eat. Everybody is sooooo afraid of putting on a few pounds of fat. IMHO, you have to to build muscle/strength.

Some people don't have a big appetite and/or just don't like force feeding themselves. It's not a very fun feeling being physically full every hour of the day.

[BigTallOx]

Some people don't have a big appetite

Doing heavy squats and deads cures me of this.

[Guido]

Some people don't have a big appetite and/or just don't like force feeding themselves. It's not a very fun feeling being physically full every hour of the day.

Yes, it's uncomfortable to stuff your face each and every day in the beginning for some people, just as it's hardest for people to get over the soreness and effort of training in the first few weeks or months, but it gets easier IF THEY ARE CONSISTENT. Your stomach expands. Your body and digestive system adapt to eating more and more food, and then the weight starts coming on. It's not rocket science, really, but a lot of people out there aren't used to the idea of consistent repeated effort and withstanding a little bit of discomfort for long term gains.

[berfles]

Doing heavy squats and deads cures me of this.

Doesn't for me.

Yes, it's uncomfortable to stuff your face each and every day in the beginning for some people, just as it's hardest for people to get over the soreness and effort of training in the first few weeks or months, but it gets easier IF THEY ARE CONSISTENT. Your stomach expands. Your body and digestive system adapt to eating more and more food, and then the weight starts coming on. It's not rocket science, really, but a lot of people out there aren't used to the idea of consistent repeated effort and withstanding a little bit of discomfort for long term gains.

I've been eating what I do every day for the better part of 5-6 months and it's still a chore every day. I'm still waiting for it to be easier. It may sound like I'm bitching but I'm not, just telling it how it is for me. Regardless of how hard it is or how ****ty it makes me feel I still do it every single day, because my goal is to hit 200lbs.

[hellagrant]

Haha! Wow, it is funny reading these posts about having a hard time eating more and gaining weight when there are so many people in America who are fat as hell and trying so hard to lose weight.

Anyways, I agree, eating is very hard and not understood well by beginners. It is especially hard for the hardgainers. As a hardgainer and a naturally skinny person, I have to eat non stop. There is no cutting phase for me. I am always munching on something at work, when I am watching TV, etc. It is understandable to see why eating is under-rated, people think stimulation of the muscle is all it takes to get bigger.

Now that I am eating more and paying more attention to what I put in my body, I am finally starting to grow in size. It took 4 years for me to come to the conculsion that I had to dramatically change my lifestyle. Sometimes, people need time to keep failing so that they step back and look at the big picture. Now I just wonder how big I would be if I started to properly eat years ago. I guess I just have to play catch up now.

[Brad08]

Haha! Wow, it is funny reading these posts about having a hard time eating more and gaining weight when there are so many people in America who are fat as hell and trying so hard to lose weight.

I thought it was funny as well. I don't like sweets but have started forcing myself to eat deserts to get in the calories. And I don't even enjoy them.

Anyways, I agree, eating is very hard and not understood well by beginners. It is especially hard for the hardgainers.

There are no hardgainers, only undereaters.

Anyway, I must have been one dumb MF'r but when I was in my low 20s, I'd drink "two great big glasses of milk!" and think I'd eaten big. The scale never budged and neither did my muscles, but it never occurred to me that I wasn't eating enough.

[rbtrout]

To BFGuitar - yes. I've tried helping about 8 different people with eating/lifting. They jump on the routine, but don't want to eat, either enough or the right foods to lose or gain. After a few weeks of hearing the complaints that they're not making gains (or losses), I don't bother with them any more.

[JRider23]

is eating a lot necessary to get bigger? i mean like lifting a lot of weights that will stress your muscles won't do as much without eating? this may seem like a stupid question as it seems obvious in these recent posts, but can you get really muscular without eating tons? in my case i play soccer so i am constantly running, and even if i try to eat/bulk up it won't do as much during soccer season because i'll just be losing the weight on the field