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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    Problem with shoulder press

    Last week I did 140 for 3 reps strict press. Today I tried for 145 and couldn't even do one... I did do 135 for a few singles which was fine. But I know that it was just a bad day no problem... but it has to do with something else.

    Usually after that I do seated DB press. I try to do 3x10... The first set goes by well, the last rep is hard but manageable. The second set I barely get 6 up, the third barely 4.

    So my question is, what does this mean? Why is there such a big drop off? I can do 55 for 3 sets of 10 no problem. Should I try going for 3x8, just so I dont burn out as quick?

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    Why so high rep anyway, I'd drop it down to 8, but it just sounds like a bad day to me, maybe you didn't eat properly or get enough rest? Stress levels?
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    When you say shoulder press, are you talking a standing OHP or seated?
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    For BB press standing for DB sitting.

    Could have been rest but I have a track record of sucking at shoulder press. I got plenty of rest, I did party this weekend though lol.

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    Maybe try not worrying so much. I hardly think this deserves a thread.
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    Well is it normal to have such a massive drop off? From 10 to 6 to 4. The week before I did 10,5,5. Obviously I have to change something.

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    For me, I need like ten minute rests in between heavy sets of OHP (I do sets of 5). I can almost guarantee you that is it. Something about shoulders make them need longer rests. That's how it has always been for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFGUITAR View Post
    Last week I did 140 for 3 reps strict press. Today I tried for 145 and couldn't even do one... I did do 135 for a few singles which was fine. But I know that it was just a bad day no problem... but it has to do with something else.

    Usually after that I do seated DB press. I try to do 3x10... The first set goes by well, the last rep is hard but manageable. The second set I barely get 6 up, the third barely 4.

    So my question is, what does this mean? Why is there such a big drop off? I can do 55 for 3 sets of 10 no problem. Should I try going for 3x8, just so I dont burn out as quick?
    I have exactly the same problem. 60kgs seated press is easy for 3-4. Could not even do 1 for 65kgs.

    And this could not be because of burn. I did 60kgx3 for my first set, felt like I could have easily done another one or even two, decided to try for 65 kgs for tne 2nd set and could barely move the bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFGUITAR View Post
    Well is it normal to have such a massive drop off? From 10 to 6 to 4. The week before I did 10,5,5. Obviously I have to change something.
    There are so many variables though man.
    -diet could be off
    -sleep off
    -stress levels higher
    -other things on your mind
    -maybe a previous workout had you more fatigued then normal
    -rest between sets different

    Just count it as a ****ty workout. Training is about overall progress. If this continues for a few workouts then start trying to diagnose the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidior View Post
    There are so many variables though man.
    -diet could be off
    -sleep off
    -stress levels higher
    -other things on your mind
    -maybe a previous workout had you more fatigued then normal
    -rest between sets different

    Just count it as a ****ty workout. Training is about overall progress. If this continues for a few workouts then start trying to diagnose the problem.
    ^^^ I'm with the genious here
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    If your form is not down then increasing weight can make things alot harder on yourself too.
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    Thanks, I'll be back.

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