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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    Nervous towards bulking.

    Hi, I'm one of those people that are pretty scared of bulking and gaining fat and whatnot. I know, I know, I probably shouldn't be on this forum, it's titled wannabebig for a reason I guess but I am just looking for advice.

    I'm currently 16, 5'8, and I weigh 155 pounds. I have been lifting weights for about a year and a half. I have full access to a gym and go four days a week;

    Monday-Upper/Tuesday-Lower/Wednesday-Rest/Thursday-Upper/Friday-Lower

    I am perfectly fine with a slow bulk, I would actually prefer it, I need to figure out the most accurate way to track my maintenance calories and add onto them slowly.

    As for the food aspect of the slow bulk, I have it all under control.

    One more thing, I haven't altered my routine much in the whole time I have been lifting and it feels like I have hit my plateau and I just can't go above what I have been lifting. I'm working on developing a brand new routine so then I'll have two routines. Would it be wise and effective to switch between the two routines every two months or so?

    Thanks for all of the help, I really appreciate it.
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    sounds like you know what to do. Track your calories a little while and determine maintenance. And then shoot for 400 or so above that. That will be less than a pound of gain a week but it will also mean not very much fat.

    Don't be scared to put on a little fat though in the bulk-cut process. Once you have more muscle its much easier to cut because your metabolism raises. Its really no big thing to put a little fat on, unless you are working as a model for your bread

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    You're 16 - there's no such thing as too much food

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    At your age, just eat. If you start gaining too fast, back off. Bulking is a little easier than cutting in that respect.
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    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.
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    & Remember you might really respond well your first few weeks and then after that the danger of putting on too much fat becomes more real.

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    You also don't just "get fat". You gain each pound of fat gradually, over the period of at least about a week for a pound or so. Regardless of how much you eat, the body has a way of doing something with it so you can't gain 50lbs of fat in 2 weeks.

    Just bulk, and adjust as you go. If you feel your putting on too much fat, you are. Chill out on the calories, figure out if there are problems in your routine (ask us), and go from there. This is a process, you're always going to be making adjustments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymous1 View Post
    You also don't just "get fat". You gain each pound of fat gradually, over the period of at least about a week for a pound or so. Regardless of how much you eat, the body has a way of doing something with it so you can't gain 50lbs of fat in 2 weeks.
    This is where we need to remember the immutable laws of physics. The body is a closed system, energy only leaves as heat & kinetic energy.

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    Dude, just eat, lift, hit 200, get jacked, slash it up and watch the jaws drop.

    Sell your car, buy a motorcycle, get a tattoo or ten, listen to metal, and hit on the female teachers.


    Every lb of muscle increases your maintenance cals by 35-50 kcals per day.

    So the more muscle, the more fat you can burn, and the easier cutting becomes.
    I am primarily a bodybuilder, not a PL. Any advice given will be from the primary POV of a bodybuilder, and not a PL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto View Post
    This is where we need to remember the immutable laws of physics. The body is a closed system, energy only leaves as heat & kinetic energy.
    and poop!

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    Slow bulk is bunk, your still gonna put on the same amount of fat just at a slower pace, and all your gonna do is minimize muscle gain. If you wanna bulk, then BULK! at 5'8 155 I'd say you're naturally thin and would lose fat like nothing when needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AzBboy View Post
    Slow bulk is bunk, your still gonna put on the same amount of fat just at a slower pace, and all your gonna do is minimize muscle gain. If you wanna bulk, then BULK! at 5'8 155 I'd say you're naturally thin and would lose fat like nothing when needed.
    YES, you are brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I agree 110%

    JUST BULK IT!

    I usually do a 30% body fat bulk, slash it down to 12-14, rinse, repeat!


    One time, I had a 3 year bulk... it was epicly epic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reko View Post
    and poop!
    & what energy yielding substances are in there?

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    I think it was just an excuse to say poop.
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    Tons of undigested calories are in poop.
    I am primarily a bodybuilder, not a PL. Any advice given will be from the primary POV of a bodybuilder, and not a PL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AzBboy View Post
    Slow bulk is bunk
    No, it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto View Post
    & what energy yielding substances are in there?
    Thought you could burn it? At least cow patties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadScientist View Post
    Tons of undigested calories are in poop.
    Got a link for that?

    I know stuff like huge amounts of Vitamin C can pass through but the human body is king when it comes to survival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holto View Post
    & what energy yielding substances are in there?
    pretty much this:
    Quote Originally Posted by VikingWarlord View Post
    I think it was just an excuse to say poop.

    Im sure the body isn't completely 100% efficient in extracting every single calorie out of everything and storing it or burning it, but I am not too concerend with what that percentage is to go find out.

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    You obviously don't gain a 100% proportional amount of weight compared to calories even with the thermic effect of food and calories expended by added weight etc. So it goes somewhere, where does it go Holto? I have no idea. maybe it is just poop.

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    I am sure there is some scientist somewhere that is boiling beakers of our **** to measure how many calories is in the average 6oz log. Gotta be something in it, otherwise there wouldn't be creatures that subsist on eating the poop of other creatures.
    Last edited by samadhi_smiles; 04-07-2009 at 02:29 PM.

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    I just know that when you start having things like fat turning up in stool it's considered a serious medical condition. I agree though, our body is likely not 100% efficient.

    LOL @ 6oz log...

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    6oz? I once weighed myself before and after a dump and I'd dropped 3 lbs.
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