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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    Lat Pulldown causes winging scapula?

    Hey guys,

    Today was my back day and I was sitting at a latpull down machine and for some reason as soon as I started my first set I got a pain in my shoulder. I thought maybe I was just not warmed up enough so once I stretched a bit I continued with my sets. The pain caused some discomfort so I cut my day short and just did some shrugs and get the hell out of there. Upon getting home I remember this old condition I once saw on youtube called a "winging scapula". And as of 30 minutes ago I've been scared ****less thinking Ive got this condition. Please tell me I'm a hypochondriac and that a lat pull down mishap (i pull down in front of me not behind my neck) could not possibly cause such a condition. Any insight would be AMAZING.

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    Actually, lat pull downs and pullups help to correct this condition. Winging scapula is caused from an imbalance of your front delts, shoulder, and chest muscles in relation to your upper back. Part of the therapy to correct this is to condition the rear delts and other muscles in the upper back. You probably ****ed up your RC (rotator cuff). Let it rest and stick to pullups...not pull downs.
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    ^^better yet are chin-ups (close, palms facing) for avoiding shoulder pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cards View Post
    Actually, lat pull downs and pullups help to correct this condition. Winging scapula is caused from an imbalance of your front delts, shoulder, and chest muscles in relation to your upper back. Part of the therapy to correct this is to condition the rear delts and other muscles in the upper back. You probably ****ed up your RC (rotator cuff). Let it rest and stick to pullups...not pull downs.
    Beefing up my back dramatically reduced the appearance of winged scapula (or what I liked to call chicken wing shoulder blades).

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    oh ok. what a relief. ive been freaking out all day about this. I was afraid i tore some minor muscle or bruised a thoracic nerve. Thank you guys so much. As for back/front relations, my back is definitely ALOT stronger than my chest so its not so much that imbalance. Thanks again guys.

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    I had horrible chicken wing should blades, thanks to deadlifts and pullups they are completely gone.

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    ive been diagnosed with a bulging disc, a minor one.. im told roughly 50% of the population has a bulging disc to some degree. Its been causing discomfort until i started doing more delt raises... the first time i did it i could feel the area each time i raised my shoulders. Now i dont feel it at all but i continue the delt raises.

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    Hi guys, sorry for writing in this old topic, but I came here thanks to google.
    Last wednesday I was training as I usually do, and I was in the latpull down machine, I usually use it taking it behind my neck, but this day I tried to do it in front of my neck, and I felt a little pain in my right shoulder...
    On thursday I didn't feel any pain at all, but on friday I woke up with a really strong pain in my right shoulder again, so I went to an urgency place and I got some pain-killers... Later the pain was gone, but on saturday I felt my back and my shoulder really weird, I couldn't feel my right serratus muscle and I noticed I had a winged scapula which I had never seen before!
    I'm really afraid now, cuz it fits perfectly the description for a Long thoracic nerve injury, and that seems bad enought to stop me with my training for a couple of months :S...
    Any advice? something I should do?

    Thanks a lot, and sorry for any english mistake, I'm not native speaker.

    Regards!

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    Quote Originally Posted by f.gonzalez View Post
    Hi guys, sorry for writing in this old topic, but I came here thanks to google.
    Last wednesday I was training as I usually do, and I was in the latpull down machine, I usually use it taking it behind my neck, but this day I tried to do it in front of my neck, and I felt a little pain in my right shoulder...
    On thursday I didn't feel any pain at all, but on friday I woke up with a really strong pain in my right shoulder again, so I went to an urgency place and I got some pain-killers... Later the pain was gone, but on saturday I felt my back and my shoulder really weird, I couldn't feel my right serratus muscle and I noticed I had a winged scapula which I had never seen before!
    I'm really afraid now, cuz it fits perfectly the description for a Long thoracic nerve injury, and that seems bad enought to stop me with my training for a couple of months :S...
    Any advice? something I should do?

    Thanks a lot, and sorry for any english mistake, I'm not native speaker.

    Regards!
    I can't offer any advice on the topic but I am curious as I also have scrapular winging... do you have what feels to perpetual muscle knot between your vertabrae and the scap on the affected side?
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