Here's video from today's workout.
We used doubled purple bands today which add a little over 200 at the top.
The reason we did bands instead of straight weight is for a couple reasons, but the biggest being it helps you work on technique for touching. As the bands get lighter towards the bottom, the weight becomes less and less (duh right?) which forces you to improve your technique to make it touch. This way, when we head towards these weights (750+) straight weight, touching is a piece of cake.
The other thing is that the bands really work the lockout at the top.
Usually lifters will develop speed off the chest and use that momentum to help them get to lockout. With these bands, they really seem to kick in all of a sudden and take your momentum out (or at least partially).
One thing that popped into my head today is lifters don't think about why they are doing a particular ME exercises. I spend a good amount of time watching video and figuring out how to best attack my weaknesses in my next workout and I really think this is a huge part of my progress in the gym. If you don't know why you are doing said exercise, either come up with a reason (so you can replicate this exercise when you hit the same problem down the road) or drop it and find one that makes sense.
Now...here's the video
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That video is impressive. I agree with what you said about this exercise. I got away from doing it for some stupid reason even though it was working. I started doing more reverse band, and it doesn't work as well.
Good lifting Travis you are right in the way you think.I love how you figure out where you need work thru a max effort excercise thats something i need to really look at i kinda just been picking a excercise for the day and doing it i need to really look at what i need to hit.
In your opinion are the purple bands best for a Max effort Bench? reason i ask is because you said that you feel that these take the momentum out of the movement right away.
The reverse bands are good for overload, still make you focus on technique near the bottom (since they do make it lighter at the bottom) but they actually increase speed instead of slowing you down and allow you to lift more.
As for the bands, it depends. Sometimes doubled purples can be too much for raw lifters depending on the quality of their technique and strength level. Some people will be better suited to the doubled minis, monster minis or the like. I would start with the doubled minis and go from there. 200+lbs of tension (the purples) feels like a ton more than 200 lbs because it's forcefully pushing down on you
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Max Bench: 255---220-----------280------300
Max Squat: 405----395----------440------460
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Aren't bands more detrimental to a raw lifter?
Seems to me, most raw lifters struggle at the bottom of the lift and are better at the lockout. The bands make it light at the bottom of the lift so you're never working on your strength in that portion of the lift but you're increasing your strength at the top tenfold.
Seems to me bands and such are awesome for guys who lift geared and not so much for those who don't. Any info you're willing to share here will be awesome. I looked into getting bands (as a raw lifter) and I thought twice about it because of the issue above...
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The other thing is raw lifters need to develop speed as well.
Couple years ago, I got out of my shirt and did nothing but raw work. I cycled mini bands, monster minis, purples and reverse green bands and my raw bench went from 450 to 515 in about 5 months.
You can still build your power off the bottom by using things like cambered bar bench and DB bench.
Also, don't worry, there is still plenty of tension at the bottom LOL. They don't just let off. It's just that when you are heading up, it really kicks in harder
Nice work Travis.
Thats some crazy band tension
awesome video... and awesome exercise. Looks fun.
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simply amazing. Just curious..... how often do you guys train shirted vs raw?
That exercise is worth trying!!!!!!!!!
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