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I was wondering about using a mixed grip for deadlifts or rack pulls or any kind of deadlift type of movement. I was curious would one side of my traps become more developed than another using one hand over and one hand underhand? I am just wondering because I am only doing ONE set of rack pulls once a week for my traps. Opinions?
MS
You are doing them or your traps?
They will hit your traps, but if you just want to hit your traps, do db shrugs.
I get very accustomed to using the same hand over and the same hand under when I do my deads. I haven't messed up my back or it's development, so I personally see nothing wrong with it.
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It would be a good idea to change the mix though.
I have read that it can cause some imbalance.
Better to be safe than sorry, I guess.
Yeah that does make the most sense to change your grip up. I dont know Ill see what happens. Maybe change my grip week to week?
MS
You don't need to switch your grip. Think of it this way, do you see the biggest powerlifters going around with mismatched traps (any more than normal)?
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Thats exactly what I was thinking man thank you.
MS
I know at least that with myself, due to a shoulder injury, my right shoulder varies dramatically in height if I rotate my arm between grips. As it will tend to fall underhand, I like to force it to go overhand sometimes even though it is not as comfortable.
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Last edited by Shocker; 04-18-2002 at 07:10 AM.
Maybe they practice with both combinations of mixed grips?Originally posted by chris mason
You don't need to switch your grip. Think of it this way, do you see the biggest powerlifters going around with mismatched traps (any more than normal)?![]()
Or maybe they don't (I would bet a lot of $ that 99% don't).
I would vote to alternate grips or even better to stick with an overhand grip. You probably don't remember but some time ago I sustained a slight--but annoying--injury to my lower back(One of only 2-3 I've had in 3 years of training), and am certain it was due to the torque caused by using a mixed grip in the rack deadlift.
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Just use straps with an overhand grip and don't worry about it. :P
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Chances are ya wont mess anything up doing a over under grip. I've done left hand under right over since i started deads and everything is pretty much symetrical. And chris is right that most p'lifters dont swithc there grip in training.
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Gotta second the left hand under, right hand over grip. I don't know why, but it just feels so much more natural that way (I'm right handed, btw, if that means anything).
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Same way I do it.
Best Meet Lifts(Raw):
@165- 430(w/wraps) SQ 260 BE 560 DL.....1250 total
@181- 470(w/wraps) SQ 285 BE 565 DL.....1320 total
Best Meet Lifts(Multi-ply):
@148- 575 SQ 315 BE 515 DL.....1400 total
@165- 680 SQ 380 BE 540 DL.....1555 total
@181- 700 SQ 375 BE 535 DL.....1605 total
Best Gym Lifts(Raw)
455(w/wraps) SQ 275 BE 545 DL
Thanks, I can stop switching grips and just use the one that works best.
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Okay guys thanks - Ill probably use what feels best. Pulling lots of weight without straps is a damn good forearm/grip workout too.
MS
Originally posted by Blood&Iron
You probably don't remember but some time ago I sustained a slight--but annoying--injury to my lower back(One of only 2-3 I've had in 3 years of training), and am certain it was due to the torque caused by using a mixed grip in the rack deadlift.
*** I had posted about this being a problem but it was ignored.
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Could you repost this info or ellaborate on how this would be a problem? I am interested. Thanks.Originally posted by Maki Riddington
*** I had posted about this being a problem but it was ignored.
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Yeah same here - how would doing a mixed grip in rack pulls be a problem?
MS
Here's the thread Maki posted to:
http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...ght=mixed+grip
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Thanks B&I good read. Very interesting opinions. I think I am just going to stick with alternating each week or doing 3 reps with one way mixed, then altnerate for my next 3 reps. This gives my body a few second break and really helps everything even out I think.
MS
Dammit, where's Cobra?
As far as the grip, I've always used the mixed grip and I've yet to see a problem. I even use it on SLDL's and shrugs before I got straps.
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You used a mixed grip on shrugs!? Damn I never heard that that was a good idea, I must be crazy but personally I can imagine that causing a muscular imbalance. Maybe not who knows. I dont know the physiology standpoint, sorry.
MS
Sure did. Never had a problem with development either.
Though I must say its nicer to be a strap-bitch and crank out reps with 425.![]()
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