New vid of Pat Mendes - 200kg snatch!

[CleverName]

Video

He may be... The One. Hopefully he'll bring the gold to the US and put Weightlifting in the spotlight around these parts.

[NickAus]

Some strong stuff there!!

[Brian Hopper]

Very impressive!!!!!

[Guido]

I can't see the vid but I'm going to assume it's a lift done in training. I'd love to see him do it in a competition against other strong lifters. Every time I've seen him lift in person in a competition he's bombed out (the '09 Arnold Classic and Pan Am Games/US Nationals).

[chris mason]

Funny thing how the great hope is strong as **** in the basic lifts, eh? That's what Louie has been preaching forever and seems to get missed on the US Olympic coaches.

[robchris]

That kid is unbelievable!!!!

The Raw Sqt. & BP were just as impressive as the snatch IMO!

[vdizenzo]

Oh my!

[Cmanuel]

I dont think They actively train basic lifts other than back squat... I think I read somewhere that they do DL and BP every once and a while as a sort of mini competition between fellow gym trainees... Broz is big on going big, going heavy, and going often on the C&J and S

though i might be wrong.

[chris mason]

I dont think They actively train basic lifts other than back squat... I think I read somewhere that they do DL and BP every once and a while as a sort of mini competition between fellow gym trainees... Broz is big on going big, going heavy, and going often on the C&J and S

though i might be wrong.

My point is that the guy has a lot of brute strength and I am quite sure it is not just from squats and Olympic lifts. He has a surplus of brute strength which is what a top level Olympic lifter needs if he or she is to compete with the best.

[Runty]

Nothing short of Herculean here.

[rinse]

My point is that the guy has a lot of brute strength and I am quite sure it is not just from squats and Olympic lifts. He has a surplus of brute strength which is what a top level Olympic lifter needs if he or she is to compete with the best.

It is from just squats, front squats and the olympic lifts plus the power variance of the snatch and clean. They max out on the same lifts every day. Pats coach uses the old bulgarian system.

[C-Sobrino]

Max effort, every day, two times a day.

[Tom Mutaffis]

Wow, Mendes is a powerhouse...

If he can stay healthy and dial in for a competition it looks like he could really make a name for himself.

[chris mason]

It is from just squats, front squats and the olympic lifts plus the power variance of the snatch and clean. They max out on the same lifts every day. Pats coach uses the old bulgarian system.

Have you personally spoken to Pat to know exactly what he does in training? What it says in interviews etc. is not always the entirety of the story. In addition, you don't get a raw 500+ lbs bench without doing the movement at least once in a while...

[vdizenzo]

Have you personally spoken to Pat to know exactly what he does in training? What it says in interviews etc. is not always the entirety of the story. In addition, you don't get a raw 500+ lbs bench without doing the movement at least once in a while...

Agreed.

[Cmanuel]

Have you personally spoken to Pat to know exactly what he does in training? What it says in interviews etc. is not always the entirety of the story. In addition, you don't get a raw 500+ lbs bench without doing the movement at least once in a while...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121212081

Here is a good thread where John Broz talks about his training philosophy, what he has pat and other oly lifters do, and how he discourages them from benching (and also talks about how his bench went up a crap ton just from squatting)

Regardless of how he trains, the only thing that really matters is that this kid is on track to bring Gold to the US for oly lifting. Pat has such a damn strong bench press without training it that often... i dont think you will see this kid missing many jerks.

[sbirgel]

beastly lifting! that kid is unbelievably strong

[chris mason]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121212081

Here is a good thread where John Broz talks about his training philosophy, what he has pat and other oly lifters do, and how he discourages them from benching (and also talks about how his bench went up a crap ton just from squatting)

Regardless of how he trains, the only thing that really matters is that this kid is on track to bring Gold to the US for oly lifting. Pat has such a damn strong bench press without training it that often... i dont think you will see this kid missing many jerks.

Is this coach in any of his videos?

[Cmanuel]

Is this coach in any of his videos?

Yep, he films all of these and posts them to his 'brozknowz' youtube acct.

[chris mason]

Yep, he films all of these and posts them to his 'brozknowz' youtube acct.

Ok, so he films him benching yet he says he doesn't really do it? He just got a good bench from squatting? I MIGHT be able to buy a 400 + raw bench simply from a lot of pressing, but not a 500+ bench without doing the movement with some regularity.

Put it this way, what coach says he does and what he actually does probably vary a bit (perhaps without the coach's knowledge).

[BrozKnows]

Ok, so he films him benching yet he says he doesn't really do it? He just got a good bench from squatting? I MIGHT be able to buy a 400 + raw bench simply from a lot of pressing, but not a 500+ bench without doing the movement with some regularity.

Put it this way, what coach says he does and what he actually does probably vary a bit (perhaps without the coach's knowledge).

Pat benched 450 in high school before I met him. Check out his youtube page "buffmendes". I made him a bet that his bench would increase if his overall body power increased without benching. His squat went up over 300# in the past 22 months. For that video he benched 3 days. M, W, F. the lifts were: M: 180x5, W: 140x3x3, F: Video. That's all. since Im with him at the gym everyday, I'm pretty sure he's not sneaking off to bench somewhere else. Especially based on his poor form. He has done standing strict press with 150kg and done 240kg power jerk.

[BrozKnows]

I can't see the vid but I'm going to assume it's a lift done in training. I'd love to see him do it in a competition against other strong lifters. Every time I've seen him lift in person in a competition he's bombed out (the '09 Arnold Classic and Pan Am Games/US Nationals).

You must have fallen asleep at the Arnold's - especially when they handed him the check for $1000 for best Jr Lifter. He did 160/195 at that meet. Video on youtube.

[rinse]

I'm really impressed don't get me wrong but did he do 160 at the Arnold and now less than 2 months after he does 200. How can this be? Didn't he go all out at the Arnold or has he a problem to perform when he needs to/peak for a meet?

[BrozKnows]

I'm really impressed don't get me wrong but did he do 160 at the Arnold and now less than 2 months after he does 200. How can this be? Didn't he go all out at the Arnold or has he a problem to perform when he needs to/peak for a meet?

the Arnolds was March, 2009. That was 13 months ago. He attempted 166 at that meet with a close miss. He made 170 a month before the meet with straps. 30kg in 15 months is more accurate.

[rinse]

the Arnolds was March, 2009. That was 13 months ago. He attempted 166 at that meet with a close miss. He made 170 a month before the meet with straps. 30kg in 15 months is more accurate.

Oh I thought it was this year. Sorry... Where will Pat compete next?