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so i weigh about 148.2 pounds right now i wanna work my weight up to about 165 first then up to 200 i want to do this all natrual also how many calories should i be taking in a day ? also what should i be eating such as straight white chicken and red meat or what sorry i sound dumb i know but im new to this and i just want to learn as much as i can thank you
You need to include your age and height before we can ballpark how many calories you need. Red meat is fine, I prefer a lot of chicken.
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Stop counting and start eating. Eat until you're full and then put some more down. This is how it's done. Counting is what you do in math class. Eat as much as you can, as often as you can, for as long as you can, then eat a little bit more.
It's really that simple. No need to make it rocket science. It's just the act of creating an eating disorder.
I would not follow this advice at all. You'll end up with stomach pains from over eating and gain a bunch of fat in the process. If your really lean already then gaining fat might not be as big of a deal.
There are plenty of post on here about how to bulk properly just search bulk/bulking and you'll find the info you need.
I think this advice can be wonderful for someone who trains like an animal. Realistically speaking it takes time to build that intensity.
Judging by the fact that the OP is 148 I think it's safe to say he hasn't built this intensity yet and doing a "kitchen sink" bulk could result in several times more fat gained than muscle. This is not beneficial for many reasons. The most significant is the time lost bulking while cutting.
An athlete that truly wants to gain size should not fear gaining fat but gaining fat needlessly is just wasteful.
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I agree with what you are saying about gaining fat but in reality for someone who is a hardgainer this rarely happens. I drank a gallon of whole milk a day for 6 months, went from 165 to 200, put on a little fat sure, but I also gained a ton of muscle and strength.
People are so afraid of the little bit of stomach fat one might gain bulking. No one cares about that bit of fat down there when you are huge (not saying I am) and strong as hell.
Rhodes is right, eat as much as you can, as often as you can. You should feel like shit doing it.
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Nowhere in my post did I say to eat anything (your kitchen sink analogy). The key to gaining weight is gorging yourself. Granted, at 148 he doesn't need to gorge like I do. however, at 148lbs, he clearly has no clue how to eat to gain size. The easiest and most effective way to do it is to stuff your face at all times.
If he chooses good foods this will lessen the chance of gaining unwanted fat. If he does consistent conditioning during his weight gain this will alos curtail unwanted fat gain.
Counting calories is a waste of time, especially for someone that small. It's one more thing to think about and worry about which will undoubtedly lead to a complete lack of progress. And, this is what he's experiencing. The more variables you add in, the more chances of failure.
If someone isn't gaining weight they're not eating enough. Period. That can't be argued. The easiest and most effective way to solve this problem is to eat youyr face off.
Counting calories isa wate of time when it comes to basics and that's what this is. Stepping on stage at a bodybuilding show is a different story.
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x+10-20% where x is the amount you're currently eating per day.i wanna work my weight up to about 165 first then up to 200 i want to do this all natrual also how many calories should i be taking in a day ?
Go with a smaller surplus if you're worried about fat gain, go with a larger surplus if not. Re-evaluate down the track as the bigger you get the higher your maintenance calorie level will be.
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OP - counting Calories works and just eating works. Honestly, imho, I wouldn't be too specific until you need to be.. as in..when you get to your goal of 165 or probably a little more. You can't keep up solid weight gain in a linear way forever without gaining a lot of fat so at that point, maybe some specificity is needed for a slighter surplus. But god man, at 148, just trade out that chicken for a couple big macs. The point is, you're not eating enough. You can also trade out water or whatever you drink with some whole milk.
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I agree with the guys who say drop the calculator and pick up the fork. It was a long time ago when I was trying not to be skinny, but I do remember what helped me turn it around. Eggs,(not all the yokes) squats, bench, and safely done dead lifts. These will put weight on your whole body. That was my formula and it worked for me back in the day.just my two cents. good luck.
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