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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    DB Shoulder Press

    I have a rotator cuff on the mend. I can do DB overhead shoulder presses with my elbows facing forward, but not out to the side. Is there a big difference?
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    Maybe you'll use the tri's more? You're over thinking the lift, which ever way doesn't cause pain is best.
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    surprized thanks

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    So, your palms are facing you and your elbows are out front? That's fine.


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    One thing I have learned as I have gotten older and more beaten up, do what doesn't hurt. If you can find a way to work without it hurting that's key. Sometimes ego gets in our way and we want to show our body who is boss. Yeah, the body does not like that. It's one of the surest ways to injury.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosch232 View Post
    I have a rotator cuff on the mend. I can do DB overhead shoulder presses with my elbows facing forward, but not out to the side. Is there a big difference?
    I would speak with your Physical Therapist before making any changes to your prescribed training program.

    If you are not under the care of a physician then I would seek out options that are pain-free and then worry about carryover/effectiveness once you have healed. Maintaining some level of strength training/physical activity will definitely put you in a better position once you recover, as long as you are not hindering your recovery by training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vdizenzo View Post
    One thing I have learned as I have gotten older and more beaten up, do what doesn't hurt. If you can find a way to work without it hurting that's key. Sometimes ego gets in our way and we want to show our body who is boss. Yeah, the body does not like that. It's one of the surest ways to injury.
    ^^Amen to that.^^

    To be clear, my palms face each other while doing the lift, and my elbows are aimed out roughly 45 deg.

    In my untrained opinion, I think this does the front of the shoulders more, so I counter it with other movements that do rear delts later in the workout. And Tom, the rear delt work was what I was prescribed for p.t. like face pulls and resistance band movements.

    Thanks for the replies, people. Mainly I'm asking out of curiosity.
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    I agree with everyone else. Do what doesnt hurt. Simple. Sometimes I feel it more in my shoulders with the way you do it anyways.
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    Sounds like neutral grip, which is how people do standing reg park presses. I say just do it the way that doesn't hurt, or switch to the reg park press.
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