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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    Weight Gaining Issues

    Hey guys, I'm 5'10, 175 pounds, aiming to be about 185. I've been training and eating to bulk up for about a year and put on about 20 pounds. While I've noticed significant increases in mass and strength in my shoulders, arms, legs, chest, etc, I've also started to gain a bit of a gut. I'm wondering how to go about continually gaining weight and strength while cutting down this gut a bit. I'm ingesting about 3700 calories a day, 190g of protein, 100g's of fat, and 450 g's of carbs. I usually lift heavy, sets of about 4-8 reps, and I do do ab workouts as well.
    any help is very much appreciated. Thanks!

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    eat clean foods with less fat.
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    How much is 'a bit of a gut'? Some fat gain is unavoidable on a bulk.

    I'm wondering how to go about continually gaining weight and strength while cutting down this gut a bit.
    Unfortunately it's not really possible to make your stomach smaller and everywhere else bigger simultaneously. You can keep fat gains to a minimum by eating a small calories surplus and lifting weights. It may or may not be important but this (below) doesn't really tell us anything about your weight lifting routine:

    I usually lift heavy, sets of about 4-8 reps, and I do do ab workouts as well.
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    6'2 - 105kg (231lb) - 14%bf

    B: 137.5kg (303lb)
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    D: 227.5kg (502lb)

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    Ok try to eat loosely. When you bulk up to your ideal weight, train there for 3-4 months solid then drop the fat weight an you will see a major difference from where you once were.

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    Deal with it. You can't get bigger everywhere else and pray that your gut won't. Welcome to real life. You can increase your conditioning if you feel fat. Just learn to deal with it. understand what your goal is and accept the consequences. You can always change your goals once you reach one. Understand that you can't serve 2 masters. If you want to gain weight, your gut will get bigger, no matter how well you eat. If you eat too clean, you'll never gain weight. If you decide at some point to drop some lbs and get leaner, understand that your strength will suffer.

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    Any time you are looking to gain weight you should do it in phases. Once you gain 15-25lbs you should aim to maintain that weight for 3 or more months to get a new set point and make the gains solid. Once you do that you can do a recomp diet where you just gradually diet down for 4-6 weeks then go back to another gaining phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDanny817 View Post
    eat clean foods with less fat.
    This worked for me. I had the same issue a few years back. Now I'm in perfect shape and weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vign5440 View Post
    Hey guys, I'm 5'10, 175 pounds, aiming to be about 185. I've been training and eating to bulk up for about a year and put on about 20 pounds. While I've noticed significant increases in mass and strength in my shoulders, arms, legs, chest, etc, I've also started to gain a bit of a gut. I'm wondering how to go about continually gaining weight and strength while cutting down this gut a bit. I'm ingesting about 3700 calories a day, 190g of protein, 100g's of fat, and 450 g's of carbs. I usually lift heavy, sets of about 4-8 reps, and I do do ab workouts as well.
    any help is very much appreciated. Thanks!
    Are you sure its fat gain and not just bloat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darell View Post
    Hi vign5440,
    To add 10 pounds increase caloric intake and consume more proteins through daily meals. Increase number of meals and include smarter food more in your meal plans. Eat more snacks and drink energy fluids. Increase your workouts, lift daily and take supplements.
    You should increase your carb intake. Protein should be high, but carb intake is the key to gaining weight. When you have a surplus of carbs you don't needs as much protein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuNa View Post
    Are you sure its fat gain and not just bloat?
    Yea Bulking always bloats me once I stop bulking for like a 3-4 weeks my stomach comes down a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhodeHouse View Post
    You should increase your carb intake. Protein should be high, but carb intake is the key to gaining weight. When you have a surplus of carbs you don't needs as much protein.
    ^^^This. And completely agree on Matt's first statement also. You can't gain weight without gaining some fat too.
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    Fat does not make you fat.

    If your goal is to minimize the fat gain, slow down the weight gain. Have less of a surplus, see how that goes. If you are happy, great. If not, adjust.
    Move heavy weight, eat, sleep, repeat.
    Geniuses make complicated scenarios simple, morons take simple concepts and complicate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john444 View Post
    eat clean foods with less fat.
    This is not helpful unless you define "clean" foods and have some sort of rational for the fat comment.
    Move heavy weight, eat, sleep, repeat.
    Geniuses make complicated scenarios simple, morons take simple concepts and complicate them.

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    Really, the answer is just eat until you start gaining weight. Eat your face off and don't be a bitch about gaining some fat. Train hard, sleep well and pack on the lbs. Worry about the fat later. If you build some muscle, you'll actually burn off a good amount of fat you do gain.

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    You should do exercise according to your skin biology. Eat healthy food and skin nutrition supplements, I am definitely sure it 'll help you. Most of the people do exercise more than their capability which is very harmful for them. These thing should do it according to the body.

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