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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    fat free cheeses

    fat free cheeses
    how bad are they for you... or arent they? i read one of the last ingrediants is partially hydronated oils or fats whatever are in it

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    hmmm I know they taste like ****. But im sure you knew that.

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    i'd keep away from hydrogenated oils and trans fats.
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    Originally posted by Shao-LiN
    i'd keep away from hydrogenated oils and trans fats.
    I agree.

    By the way, 'fat free' almost always means 'added sugar'.

    Stick to normal cheese.

    Better still, eat cottage cheese.
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    well i do eat cottage cheese, but there is no sugar in the cheeses...

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    Eh, whatever fits into your daily caloric intake. The last diet you posted though, had you eating a lot of non-fat foods. You seem to be straying away from fat or keeping it as low as possible.
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    I buy the fat-free cheese singles to use on my egg sandwiches and tuna melts. I wouldn't eat/buy a lot of it, but the singles are pretty good.

    It's like flashpoint cheese though...if you're making a grilled cheese or tuna melt, it seems like the stuff will never melt and then *snap* it's liquid!

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    Go by the macronutrients. If per slice it's something like:

    protein : 5g
    carb : 1g
    fat : 0.02g

    then there will be no appreciable amounts of trans fatty acids to worry about.

    in my experience they are good for cold applications but not suitable for melted cheese applications cause they end up yucky
    If the only thing you are holding is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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    Originally posted by hemants
    Go by the macronutrients. If per slice it's something like:

    protein : 5g
    carb : 1g
    fat : 0.02g

    then there will be no appreciable amounts of trans fatty acids to worry about.

    Depends whether the info includes the trans-fats and partially hydrogenated fats in the total fat breakdown.

    But for such a small slice it's not gonna be the sole reason for any unexpected death.

    An accumulation of the stuff throughout the day, everyday may though.
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    "Depends whether the info includes the trans-fats and partially hydrogenated fats in the total fat breakdown."

    Wouldn't it have to be included by law?

    At a minimum you could see the total calories vs what you calculate to see if there's something missing.
    If the only thing you are holding is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

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    Trans fats and sugar alcohols do not have to be included in the label. However you can still calculate it out, because the total fat will include all fats, so if the sat/unsat fats don't add up to the total fat, the difference is trans fats.
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    Fat free cheese is like non-alcoholic beer and decaf latte's.
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    I'd avoid them also. Due to the anti saturated fat histeria we have been poisoning ourselves with artificial fats that serve no purpose to our bodies and are responsable for the increase in many diseases in modern times. They're out to get us and stuff us with margarine and discusting things alike till we get cancer, all in the name of profit.

    They're not taking me alive....

    Maybe i should go to sleep now.....
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    cheese is the ****, goes with everything, and the full on fattiest cheese has lots of CLA, just look at all those body building benefits
    "Intensity for Density!"

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    My sister sometimes bar tends and she said they now have zero carb beers.

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    Lucerene cheese tastes great and melts great too.
    Comparde to the Kraft Singles, had less fat and calories, and taste just as good if not better.
    It's cheaper too!
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    Originally posted by TreeTrunks
    My sister sometimes bar tends and she said they now have zero carb beers.
    Year, the stuff for the designated driver.

    Water.
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    I believe its 'low carb' not 'no carb' beer. 2-4g/bottle or something like that.

    My question is this:

    If you're drinking beer, why the hell would you be worrying about your carb count?
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    Originally posted by Yanick
    I believe its 'low carb' not 'no carb' beer. 2-4g/bottle or something like that.

    My question is this:

    If you're drinking beer, why the hell would you be worrying about your carb count?
    Exactly, people forget the 7cals per g that come from alcohol, not to mention that it totally shuts off lipoylsis.
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    so did we decide fat free singles are good or bad? :-)

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    Scroll up and read 'em.
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    well no one really came to a dicision we started talking about beer... some said it was good and some said it was bad.. i basically wanna know if the partially hydronated oil thats in it is gonna hurt me in the long run or now even

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    You plan on eating a lot of it? If not, look at the top part of the quote. If you are, look at the bottom part.

    But for such a small slice it's not gonna be the sole reason for any unexpected death.

    An accumulation of the stuff throughout the day, everyday may though.
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