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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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  1. #1
    Wounded Deadlifter ryan1117's Avatar
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    This May Have Been the Final Straw!

    I load up my weight for deadlift and start chalking up my hands when a guy starts walking towards me. He proceeds to tell me that chalk is no longer allowed in the gym. I'm pretty angry that I'm likely going to have to fork out hundreds of dollars to find another place. Plus, I'm still really paying for the school gym through tuition. I refuse to use straps and without chalk, my body won't be able to get a good workout. Maybe I should send them the article written by Dave Tate so they can see just how bad they look to most powerlifters.

    I'm sure most of you have probably seen the article, but here is a link:
    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/sick-of-your-gym.htm

    I'd say this line best describes how I feel:
    "As luck would have it I found one of these places during my time in college. This place had all the best machines, mirrors, locker rooms, aerobic equipment, juice bar and hot chicks walking around from time to time. It took me about 2 weeks to figure out I up rooted myself right into HELL. I ran into many of the same issues many of you are still dealing with. "
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    Talk to the facilities director. Tell him/her that you'd like to continue using chalk, and that you will clean up after every time you use it. Bring two towels, wet one, use it to clean the bar and floor afterwards, and use a dry one to mop up the rest.

    People are usually reasonable, gym management or otherwise. The policy is usually made to avoid mess, but I'm sure compromise can be reached.
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    Wounded Deadlifter ryan1117's Avatar
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    I'm also thinking of using gloves if I still can't use chalk. They may help a little since they would keep my perspiration off the bar. I also may try sneaking some chalk on my hands in the restroom and just not put any on the bar. My hands seem to stay dry for quite awhile after I put chalk on them. My grip has been very solid lately and I might be able to get to failure with the latter.
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    does Purdue not have a decent facility that you can use chalk in? wow, thats weird....

    GLoves are OK, but not the same.. I'd agree with Belial, they'll most likely be accomodating if you talk to them
    Let me get this straight...
    You get play from the girl of your dreams
    PR Shoulder Press using the 3 digit dumbells
    Hit up some fun with the guys
    Then get more play
    (all in one afternoon/evening I might add.. S)
    You are a success my friend . Share your secrets. (Crippy)

    rookiebldr says:
    As for the weight gain, that too shouldn't be a problem, just tell them your leaning out. Then flex your bi and tell them to ****ing get lost.
    Shane says:
    yeah or throw something at them
    rookiebldr says:
    like a couple of 45's

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    Like Belial said, talk to a higher authority and reason with him/her.

    Gyms rely on as high of a member base as they possibly can get. Their cost structure is such that additional members above equilibrium (break-even point) do not add any further signifiant costs, so that's profit that they are missing out on for each member who leaves.

    Anyway, just talk and say you'll probably have to switch gyms (even if you wont) in a non-abrasive and non-confrontal way and I'm sure they'll reason with you.

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    Uni gyms never allow chalk, and they dont care about how many members they have since everyone is a member

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    just snap, go postal and spray chalk all over the place

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    Originally posted by Centaurion
    just snap, go postal and spray chalk all over the place
    Haha, I really did think about doing that. But, I figured I wouldn't sink down to their level.
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    my gym stopped chalk a while back, suks. Then they did a revamp and it started looking v. gay and like a health club. When they added the sauna and swim pool I got scared

    But then they move the weights room downstairs away from the spandex gang and now have 100kg dumbells, so its looking up again

    Oh except the pull up bar mysteriously vanished
    half the time I have no idea what you're talking about. the other half, I'm not listening.

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    Originally posted by Centaurion
    just snap, go postal and spray chalk all over the place
    You rang???

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    Originally posted by ryan1117

    Haha, I really did think about doing that. But, I figured I wouldn't sink down to their level.
    As for you shut up! LOL

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    Originally posted by the doc
    Uni gyms never allow chalk, and they dont care about how many members they have since everyone is a member
    My uni provides chalk!

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    Hey GIS, who is that in your avatar?
    "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thought it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    Richard Dawkins


    "Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."


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    WTF??/????? NO CHALK IN A GYM?????


    Are they for real is this some kind of joke????

    What else do they want to make a rule?? No lifting weights heavier than 10lbs.

    The good thing about my uni gym is that 90% of the dawgs who go there are heavy weightlifting mofo machines and as we lift we perve at the one or maybe 2 chicks in the aerobics area. We sometimes even bring so much chalk that we have to eat the leftover bits that we dont use and look like coke heads.!!@!#@

    ARGGh.. NO CHALK AND BAD RULES MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY.1@#@!!!NO CHALK AND BAD RULES MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY.1@#@!!!NO CHALK AND BAD RULES MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY.1@#@!!!NO CHALK AND BAD RULES MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY.1@#@!!!NO CHALK AND BAD RULES MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY.1@#@!!!NO CHALK AND BAD RULES MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY.1@#@!!!NO CHALK AND BAD RULES MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY.1@#@!!!NO CHALK AND BAD RULES MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY.1@#@!!!

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    lucky bastard!

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    Advantage of my gym: I know the main trainer.
    Disadvantage: Theres no squat rack, the guy I know said he'd seen some squat stands, but they cost a lot so he had to put some other stuff first (eg, tree thing for holding plates...v important). Unfortunately, im the only one who wants a power rack. All the other people who visit the gym are the people who want to 'tone' and stuff. I WISH there was a hardcore gym around here.
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    Hey GIS, who is that in your avatar?
    That's Tony Montana (Al Pachino) on Scarface...awesome flick BTW.
    Say Goodnight To The Badguy!

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    My gym stopped chalk as well. But I work there, so I use it anyways
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    Originally posted by ChrisH
    Unfortunately, im the only one who wants a power rack.
    If you build it, they will come.
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    5'11'', Male, 175lbs, age 22

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