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Contrast training is a unique way to optimize results. Read this article by Lee Boyce about how to incorporate it into your training to pack on lean muscle mass.

By: Lee Boyce Added: March 25th, 2013
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    BODYLICIOUS BABE Celestial's Avatar
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    Who is a vegetarian?

    I just decided to become one today after much debate and research. I feel it fits my lifestyle and preferances more. Anyone else one or enjoy it?
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    I was for a year and a half, and I hated it. I was born an omnivore, I'll die one. Best of luck to you, though.

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    I don't hate plants, I prefer to let them live.

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    vegetarian- an old Indian saying for "poor hunter". No offense meant to anyone. In honesty though, I think you are going to find it to be pretty difficult to bodybuild and be a vegetarian at the same time, seems like they don't coincide very well together, but the best of luck to you!
    Second place is just a generic term your mom created to make you not feel bad about losing, because second place is actually first loser!

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    BODYLICIOUS BABE Celestial's Avatar
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    I dont want to body build and if anyone was well educated enough, they would know you can maintain a diet just as high in protein etc etc with substitutes. People have been giving me negativity about the decision. i have several friend who are vegetarians who are in awesome shape.....
    WHEN LIFE ****S YOU IN THE ASS, YOU GOTTA JUST TURN IT AROUND AND **** IT RIGHT BACK!!!!!! - ME

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    Re: Who is a vegetarian?

    Originally posted by Celestial
    I just decided to become one today after much debate and research. I feel it fits my lifestyle and preferances more. Anyone else one or enjoy it?

    I don't eat red meat at all but I eat turkey, seafood, chicken, and other stuff.
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    Originally posted by Celestial
    I dont want to body build and if anyone was well educated enough, they would know you can maintain a diet just as high in protein etc etc with substitutes. People have been giving me negativity about the decision. i have several friend who are vegetarians who are in awesome shape.....
    People are just going to assume you want to lift weights since you posted it on this site. Sure you can do it, but it is more difficult. Personally I think you lowered yourself on the food chain, but good luck.

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    I'm a vegetarian and i've gained 16 pounds of muscle so far, so i must be doing something right.
    You can get enough protein on a veggie diet, you just have to pay attention to what you're eating

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    BODYLICIOUS BABE Celestial's Avatar
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    I lowered myself on the food chain? So what is Chase going to eat me for breakfast now? We don't live in a hunt to kill society. I don't have to kill or search for berries.....man I cant believe the responses I am getting lol. I actualy decided today to go vegan. I dont see how it would affect me, when you can eat the same caloric intake, protein etc etc.....
    WHEN LIFE ****S YOU IN THE ASS, YOU GOTTA JUST TURN IT AROUND AND **** IT RIGHT BACK!!!!!! - ME

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    i'm vegan and it is hard to get enough food, let alone protein, for the first 6 months. after a year it's basically smooth sailing. i have gained about 5 lbs of muscle in as many months (135 - 140) as a 100% vegan. sure it's hard but that makes it a sweet challenge.

    o yes, and i never have to worry about tainted or spoiled meat, or mad cow disease, or salmonella, or high cholesterol, or anything like that. shibby.

    good luck celestial and all other prospective vegetarians/vegans. it is worth it. plus i can take a dump in about 15 seconds flat. ha.
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    for about a year and a half i was pretty much a vegetarian(and lost about 100+lbs or so), it was hard for me especially when i went out to eat to not eat some meat, i really dont like red meat but i craved chicken all the time.

    might want to check some articles on drastically moving from a meat eater to a strict vegan diet... and what happens to hormone levels... they will adjust after awhile, that being said the same thing will happen for people moving from a strict vegan diet to a meat eater(hormone levels out of whack for a bit)
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    Originally posted by TurboStu
    vegetarian- an old Indian saying for "poor hunter".
    hahahaha
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    IMO theres no reason to eat vegetarian unless its ur religious belief.
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    Celestial -

    You've made incredible progress over the time you've been posting here.

    The idea that a vegetarian (no meat) diet is somehow healthier is something you should revisit.

    If you have a moral reason for not wanting to eat meat, then do what you have to do.. but if you want to eat a healthy balanced diet that will most enable you to meet your goals and remain healthy, I suggest you rethink your position.

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    Lemme ask a question. I have done a ton of resarch on this. If you get EXACTLY the same amount of cals, nutrients etc, how can it be any different? Please explain how it could possibly make a difference in a negative aspect.
    WHEN LIFE ****S YOU IN THE ASS, YOU GOTTA JUST TURN IT AROUND AND **** IT RIGHT BACK!!!!!! - ME

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    Celestial, I'm Vegan and Very Pro-Animal Rights. I can't and don't really want to poke holes in all the stuff said against you, but in a week (when i can type - i really hurt my hand), please im RobertHaynes2002 and we can talk about anything you need help on and answers to all the arguments you encounter.

    thank you for going veggie!
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    There is nothing wrong with being a vegan, IMO it is a choice of lifestyle. Just like eating meat. I want to ask though why are you thinking about this lifestyle change, is it for health or just you don't want to eat animals.

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    Ya, why the sudden change? Is it for moral reasons? And for you other vegans out there, why do you choose to be vegans?

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    No matter how vegetarian you are, you're still contributing to the slaughter of animals. Millions of snakes, rats and other small mammals, not to mention bugs and worms, die every year victims of the machines used to harvest cereal crops. Every time you wash your hands or clean your kitchen you're commiting a genocide of many microscopic life forms, so were do you draw the line?

    I went crazy thinking on this stuff and by the end I quit vegetarianism, I was in it because I believed it was healthier, now I don't believe that anymore.

    Anyone thiking of taking such decision should try to see the whole picture and listen to both sides. I recommend reading g.com. These are people that have been through it too before.
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    Serioulsy animal products always did a number on my stomach like I wasnt supposed to be eating them anyways. Also, i did my research and I dont agree with a lot of things. It also turned my stomach and I have no desire to eat meat etc anymore.
    WHEN LIFE ****S YOU IN THE ASS, YOU GOTTA JUST TURN IT AROUND AND **** IT RIGHT BACK!!!!!! - ME

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    Nothing wrong with it. You can supplement with protein and what not. But if it's for "health" benefits, a perfectly balanced diet with chicken or fish would be healthier IMO.
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    Originally posted by Celestial
    Serioulsy animal products always did a number on my stomach like I wasnt supposed to be eating them anyways. Also, i did my research and I dont agree with a lot of things. It also turned my stomach and I have no desire to eat meat etc anymore.
    Well if it messes with your digestive track I understand but if you were gonna say for moral reasons, I'd have to fire some ammo at ya

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    there are many who think that a veg/vegan diet is silly. as celetial said, it makes your digestive system feel clean and smooth.

    also i don't think that most people know about the destruction the animal consumption industry causes to this earth and how many world hunger and pollution problems could be solved by a switch to an efficient meat free world, or at least a world where meat is consumed like the native americans used to do it. you can look up the statistics yourself.

    i am vegan because i think we have no right to end the lives of animals for our own pleasure, and because i do not wish to contribute to the destruction of this earth.
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    because i do not wish to contribute to the destruction of this earth.
    Read this book: The Skeptical Environmentalist.
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    What might have been and what has been / Point to one end, which is always present."

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